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BILL
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      06-20-2006, 10:15 PM
Hi,

I have an idea i wanted to run past you guys. I have a 2005 Santa Fe
GLS AWD. I am concerned that I will have trouble this winter getting up
my long, steep, snow filled, Connecticut driveway with the traction
control turned on. ( this is due to experience with a Chevy Uplander
this past winter, worst vehicle in the snow I have ever driven. I had to
turn off traction control on the uplander to even hope to get up the
drive). Anyway I understand that the Santa Fe Limited comes with a
switch to turn off the traction control, while the gls doesn't. What
are the chances that I can order a switch and panel from my local
Hyundai dealer and replace the blank panel next to the driving light
switch with the new switch and panel? (I'm guessing that the wiring
harness will have a connector for the switch..... Is the proper
circuitry already there? is a switch all I need?

Thanks, Bill
 
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hyundaitech
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      06-21-2006, 05:37 PM
I just checked and couldn't find the schematic for traction control. I'm
not familiar enough to know which Santa Fe's even have traction. I'll
repost when I do some more checking.

 
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hyundaitech
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      06-21-2006, 09:50 PM
Okay, I've located a schematic. Turns out the 3.5 has the switch and the
2.7 and 2.4 don't. I'd suspect the wiring for the switch isn't even
there. The wiring from the control unit to the cluster is different
depending on whether the vehicle has 2.7 or 3.5, leading me to believe
there was no attempt to make the harnesses the same. Even so, this point
is probably moot because the control modules are different also, meaning
that the control module on the 2.7 probably doesn't even expect to see an
on/off toggle.

 
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bill
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      06-21-2006, 10:45 PM
Ahhhhh, my great idea has been smashed.... I didn't realize the
difference was engine size, thanks for the fast info. I appreciate it.

Bill


hyundaitech wrote:
> Okay, I've located a schematic. Turns out the 3.5 has the switch and the
> 2.7 and 2.4 don't. I'd suspect the wiring for the switch isn't even
> there. The wiring from the control unit to the cluster is different
> depending on whether the vehicle has 2.7 or 3.5, leading me to believe
> there was no attempt to make the harnesses the same. Even so, this point
> is probably moot because the control modules are different also, meaning
> that the control module on the 2.7 probably doesn't even expect to see an
> on/off toggle.
>

 
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Zeppo
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      06-22-2006, 04:49 PM
Bill,
I wouldn't worry too much. My Santy has been absolutely perfect in ice and
snow. I was able to negotiate some icy streets in the Manayunk section of
Philadelphia (think San Francisco with real narrow streets) last winter that
I would never have attempted in my previous front-wheel drive cars.

Jon


"bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ahhhhh, my great idea has been smashed.... I didn't realize the
> difference was engine size, thanks for the fast info. I appreciate it.
>
> Bill
>
>
> hyundaitech wrote:
> > Okay, I've located a schematic. Turns out the 3.5 has the switch and

the
> > 2.7 and 2.4 don't. I'd suspect the wiring for the switch isn't even
> > there. The wiring from the control unit to the cluster is different
> > depending on whether the vehicle has 2.7 or 3.5, leading me to believe
> > there was no attempt to make the harnesses the same. Even so, this

point
> > is probably moot because the control modules are different also, meaning
> > that the control module on the 2.7 probably doesn't even expect to see

an
> > on/off toggle.
> >



 
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Zeppo
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      06-22-2006, 06:47 PM
Actually, that was a pretty dumb response. I have no idea how steep your
driveway is or how much snow you are talking about.

I was able to drive up a twisty unplowed street that is a 12% grade at its
worst in about 7 inches of fresh snow.

Jon

"Zeppo @hotmail.com>" <zeppo<nospam> wrote in message
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> Bill,
> I wouldn't worry too much. My Santy has been absolutely perfect in ice and
> snow. I was able to negotiate some icy streets in the Manayunk section of
> Philadelphia (think San Francisco with real narrow streets) last winter

that
> I would never have attempted in my previous front-wheel drive cars.
>
> Jon
>
>
> "bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:g_jmg.70218$(E-Mail Removed). com...
> > Ahhhhh, my great idea has been smashed.... I didn't realize the
> > difference was engine size, thanks for the fast info. I appreciate it.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > hyundaitech wrote:
> > > Okay, I've located a schematic. Turns out the 3.5 has the switch and

> the
> > > 2.7 and 2.4 don't. I'd suspect the wiring for the switch isn't even
> > > there. The wiring from the control unit to the cluster is different
> > > depending on whether the vehicle has 2.7 or 3.5, leading me to believe
> > > there was no attempt to make the harnesses the same. Even so, this

> point
> > > is probably moot because the control modules are different also,

meaning
> > > that the control module on the 2.7 probably doesn't even expect to see

> an
> > > on/off toggle.
> > >

>
>



 
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kaboom
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      06-22-2006, 10:24 PM
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:47:01 -0400, "Zeppo"
<zeppo<nospam>@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Actually, that was a pretty dumb response. I have no idea how steep your
>driveway is or how much snow you are talking about.


**The Internet does make the world seem a lot smaller though, eh?

>I was able to drive up a twisty unplowed street that is a 12% grade at its
>worst in about 7 inches of fresh snow.


**I used to have a 2001 Santa Fe LX and I had no problems driving it
on my gravel, perpetually unplowed street in MI.

For CT references: I had no problems driving it in snow/ice around the
northwestern section of CT for 2-3 weeks every December when I would
go home to visit. I drove from West Hartford to T-town in an ice-storm
one Xmas and I had no problems. My sister in Litchfield has a *nasty*
steep driveway. Smooth and steady and the SF would drive right up when
snow-covered.

kaboomie

 
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bill
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      06-24-2006, 01:24 PM
Kaboomie,

Thanks; thats what I like to hear

Bill

kaboom wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:47:01 -0400, "Zeppo"
> <zeppo<nospam>@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually, that was a pretty dumb response. I have no idea how steep your
>> driveway is or how much snow you are talking about.

>
> **The Internet does make the world seem a lot smaller though, eh?
>
>> I was able to drive up a twisty unplowed street that is a 12% grade at its
>> worst in about 7 inches of fresh snow.

>
> **I used to have a 2001 Santa Fe LX and I had no problems driving it
> on my gravel, perpetually unplowed street in MI.
>
> For CT references: I had no problems driving it in snow/ice around the
> northwestern section of CT for 2-3 weeks every December when I would
> go home to visit. I drove from West Hartford to T-town in an ice-storm
> one Xmas and I had no problems. My sister in Litchfield has a *nasty*
> steep driveway. Smooth and steady and the SF would drive right up when
> snow-covered.
>
> kaboomie
>

 
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bill
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      06-24-2006, 01:40 PM
Zeppo,

Actually thats pretty close to my driveway about12% plenty of snow and
600 feet long. Toughest thing is you can't get a straight shot into the
driveway apron. You have to slow down to turn in, can't get any
momentum up.
I'm curious to see how the traction control functions. On the uplander
power to the wheel shuts down and and seems to modulate in a attempt to
gain traction. {very noisy too) You loose ability to spin the tires.
Personally I think the chevy system is crummy, the traction control
kicks in even in a light rain. on a flat road.

Thanks, Bill

Zeppo <zeppo wrote:
> Actually, that was a pretty dumb response. I have no idea how steep your
> driveway is or how much snow you are talking about.
>
> I was able to drive up a twisty unplowed street that is a 12% grade at its
> worst in about 7 inches of fresh snow.
>
> Jon
>
> "Zeppo @hotmail.com>" <zeppo<nospam> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Bill,
>> I wouldn't worry too much. My Santy has been absolutely perfect in ice and

>

 
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Mike Marlow
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      06-24-2006, 09:33 PM

"bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Zeppo,
>
> Actually thats pretty close to my driveway about12% plenty of snow and
> 600 feet long. Toughest thing is you can't get a straight shot into the
> driveway apron. You have to slow down to turn in, can't get any
> momentum up.
> I'm curious to see how the traction control functions. On the uplander
> power to the wheel shuts down and and seems to modulate in a attempt to
> gain traction. {very noisy too) You loose ability to spin the tires.
> Personally I think the chevy system is crummy, the traction control
> kicks in even in a light rain. on a flat road.
>


It's not the Chevy system that's crummy - it's your tires. Traction control
only activates when a tire breaks loose. It's not smart enough to know that
your tires are about to break loose.

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-Mike-
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