SANTAFE TRACTION CONTROL SWITCH

Discussion in 'Hyundai Santa Fe' started by BILL, Jun 20, 2006.

  1. BILL

    BILL Guest

    Hi,

    I have an idea i wanted to run past you guys. I have a 2005 Santa Fe
    GLS AWD. I am concerned that I will have trouble this winter getting up
    my long, steep, snow filled, Connecticut driveway with the traction
    control turned on. ( this is due to experience with a Chevy Uplander
    this past winter, worst vehicle in the snow I have ever driven. I had to
    turn off traction control on the uplander to even hope to get up the
    drive). Anyway I understand that the Santa Fe Limited comes with a
    switch to turn off the traction control, while the gls doesn't. What
    are the chances that I can order a switch and panel from my local
    Hyundai dealer and replace the blank panel next to the driving light
    switch with the new switch and panel? (I'm guessing that the wiring
    harness will have a connector for the switch..... Is the proper
    circuitry already there? is a switch all I need?

    Thanks, Bill
     
    BILL, Jun 20, 2006
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  2. BILL

    hyundaitech Guest

    I just checked and couldn't find the schematic for traction control. I'm
    not familiar enough to know which Santa Fe's even have traction. I'll
    repost when I do some more checking.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 21, 2006
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  3. BILL

    hyundaitech Guest

    Okay, I've located a schematic. Turns out the 3.5 has the switch and the
    2.7 and 2.4 don't. I'd suspect the wiring for the switch isn't even
    there. The wiring from the control unit to the cluster is different
    depending on whether the vehicle has 2.7 or 3.5, leading me to believe
    there was no attempt to make the harnesses the same. Even so, this point
    is probably moot because the control modules are different also, meaning
    that the control module on the 2.7 probably doesn't even expect to see an
    on/off toggle.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 21, 2006
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  4. BILL

    bill Guest

    Ahhhhh, my great idea has been smashed.... I didn't realize the
    difference was engine size, thanks for the fast info. I appreciate it.

    Bill


    hyundaitech wrote:
    > Okay, I've located a schematic. Turns out the 3.5 has the switch and the
    > 2.7 and 2.4 don't. I'd suspect the wiring for the switch isn't even
    > there. The wiring from the control unit to the cluster is different
    > depending on whether the vehicle has 2.7 or 3.5, leading me to believe
    > there was no attempt to make the harnesses the same. Even so, this point
    > is probably moot because the control modules are different also, meaning
    > that the control module on the 2.7 probably doesn't even expect to see an
    > on/off toggle.
    >
     
    bill, Jun 21, 2006
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  5. BILL

    Zeppo Guest

    Bill,
    I wouldn't worry too much. My Santy has been absolutely perfect in ice and
    snow. I was able to negotiate some icy streets in the Manayunk section of
    Philadelphia (think San Francisco with real narrow streets) last winter that
    I would never have attempted in my previous front-wheel drive cars.

    Jon


    "bill" <> wrote in message
    news:g_jmg.70218$...
    > Ahhhhh, my great idea has been smashed.... I didn't realize the
    > difference was engine size, thanks for the fast info. I appreciate it.
    >
    > Bill
    >
    >
    > hyundaitech wrote:
    > > Okay, I've located a schematic. Turns out the 3.5 has the switch and

    the
    > > 2.7 and 2.4 don't. I'd suspect the wiring for the switch isn't even
    > > there. The wiring from the control unit to the cluster is different
    > > depending on whether the vehicle has 2.7 or 3.5, leading me to believe
    > > there was no attempt to make the harnesses the same. Even so, this

    point
    > > is probably moot because the control modules are different also, meaning
    > > that the control module on the 2.7 probably doesn't even expect to see

    an
    > > on/off toggle.
    > >
     
    Zeppo, Jun 22, 2006
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  6. BILL

    Zeppo Guest

    Actually, that was a pretty dumb response. I have no idea how steep your
    driveway is or how much snow you are talking about.

    I was able to drive up a twisty unplowed street that is a 12% grade at its
    worst in about 7 inches of fresh snow.

    Jon

    "Zeppo @hotmail.com>" <zeppo<nospam> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Bill,
    > I wouldn't worry too much. My Santy has been absolutely perfect in ice and
    > snow. I was able to negotiate some icy streets in the Manayunk section of
    > Philadelphia (think San Francisco with real narrow streets) last winter

    that
    > I would never have attempted in my previous front-wheel drive cars.
    >
    > Jon
    >
    >
    > "bill" <> wrote in message
    > news:g_jmg.70218$...
    > > Ahhhhh, my great idea has been smashed.... I didn't realize the
    > > difference was engine size, thanks for the fast info. I appreciate it.
    > >
    > > Bill
    > >
    > >
    > > hyundaitech wrote:
    > > > Okay, I've located a schematic. Turns out the 3.5 has the switch and

    > the
    > > > 2.7 and 2.4 don't. I'd suspect the wiring for the switch isn't even
    > > > there. The wiring from the control unit to the cluster is different
    > > > depending on whether the vehicle has 2.7 or 3.5, leading me to believe
    > > > there was no attempt to make the harnesses the same. Even so, this

    > point
    > > > is probably moot because the control modules are different also,

    meaning
    > > > that the control module on the 2.7 probably doesn't even expect to see

    > an
    > > > on/off toggle.
    > > >

    >
    >
     
    Zeppo, Jun 22, 2006
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  7. BILL

    kaboom Guest

    On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:47:01 -0400, "Zeppo"
    <zeppo<nospam>@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >Actually, that was a pretty dumb response. I have no idea how steep your
    >driveway is or how much snow you are talking about.


    **The Internet does make the world seem a lot smaller though, eh? :)

    >I was able to drive up a twisty unplowed street that is a 12% grade at its
    >worst in about 7 inches of fresh snow.


    **I used to have a 2001 Santa Fe LX and I had no problems driving it
    on my gravel, perpetually unplowed street in MI.

    For CT references: I had no problems driving it in snow/ice around the
    northwestern section of CT for 2-3 weeks every December when I would
    go home to visit. I drove from West Hartford to T-town in an ice-storm
    one Xmas and I had no problems. My sister in Litchfield has a *nasty*
    steep driveway. Smooth and steady and the SF would drive right up when
    snow-covered.

    kaboomie
     
    kaboom, Jun 22, 2006
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  8. BILL

    bill Guest

    Kaboomie,

    Thanks; thats what I like to hear

    Bill

    kaboom wrote:
    > On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:47:01 -0400, "Zeppo"
    > <zeppo<nospam>@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Actually, that was a pretty dumb response. I have no idea how steep your
    >> driveway is or how much snow you are talking about.

    >
    > **The Internet does make the world seem a lot smaller though, eh? :)
    >
    >> I was able to drive up a twisty unplowed street that is a 12% grade at its
    >> worst in about 7 inches of fresh snow.

    >
    > **I used to have a 2001 Santa Fe LX and I had no problems driving it
    > on my gravel, perpetually unplowed street in MI.
    >
    > For CT references: I had no problems driving it in snow/ice around the
    > northwestern section of CT for 2-3 weeks every December when I would
    > go home to visit. I drove from West Hartford to T-town in an ice-storm
    > one Xmas and I had no problems. My sister in Litchfield has a *nasty*
    > steep driveway. Smooth and steady and the SF would drive right up when
    > snow-covered.
    >
    > kaboomie
    >
     
    bill, Jun 24, 2006
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  9. BILL

    bill Guest

    Zeppo,

    Actually thats pretty close to my driveway about12% plenty of snow and
    600 feet long. Toughest thing is you can't get a straight shot into the
    driveway apron. You have to slow down to turn in, can't get any
    momentum up.
    I'm curious to see how the traction control functions. On the uplander
    power to the wheel shuts down and and seems to modulate in a attempt to
    gain traction. {very noisy too) You loose ability to spin the tires.
    Personally I think the chevy system is crummy, the traction control
    kicks in even in a light rain. on a flat road.

    Thanks, Bill

    Zeppo <zeppo wrote:
    > Actually, that was a pretty dumb response. I have no idea how steep your
    > driveway is or how much snow you are talking about.
    >
    > I was able to drive up a twisty unplowed street that is a 12% grade at its
    > worst in about 7 inches of fresh snow.
    >
    > Jon
    >
    > "Zeppo @hotmail.com>" <zeppo<nospam> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Bill,
    >> I wouldn't worry too much. My Santy has been absolutely perfect in ice and

    >
     
    bill, Jun 24, 2006
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  10. BILL

    Mike Marlow Guest

    "bill" <> wrote in message news:...
    > Zeppo,
    >
    > Actually thats pretty close to my driveway about12% plenty of snow and
    > 600 feet long. Toughest thing is you can't get a straight shot into the
    > driveway apron. You have to slow down to turn in, can't get any
    > momentum up.
    > I'm curious to see how the traction control functions. On the uplander
    > power to the wheel shuts down and and seems to modulate in a attempt to
    > gain traction. {very noisy too) You loose ability to spin the tires.
    > Personally I think the chevy system is crummy, the traction control
    > kicks in even in a light rain. on a flat road.
    >


    It's not the Chevy system that's crummy - it's your tires. Traction control
    only activates when a tire breaks loose. It's not smart enough to know that
    your tires are about to break loose.

    --

    -Mike-
     
    Mike Marlow, Jun 24, 2006
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