03 Sonata Timing Belt Replacement

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by sonata32, Nov 15, 2005.

  1. sonata32

    sonata32 Guest

    How much should I expect to be charged. I have a 2003 V6 GL Sonata. Called
    dealer they quoted me for the 60k maintenance which is : 500.00 for timing
    belt replacement-625.00 tune up- 550.00 water pump replacement. Id it wise
    to call Midas and ask what they charge? Dealer told me not to do that
    because they don't use Hyundai product hence will void remainder of my
    warranty. My sad story is I just graduated from graduate school having no
    luck getting a job. Living off credit cards for the past 2 months. So money
    right now is pretty tight. Any advice my dear Hyundai buddies
    sonata32, Nov 15, 2005
  2. Well, changing the water pump at 60K is entirely optional. Odds are
    you'll make it to 120K or will have traded the car before the water
    pump gives you any trouble.

    Screwtape III, Nov 15, 2005
  3. sonata32

    Zeppo Guest

    $625 for a tune up seems a more than a bit excessive. Are you sure some
    other repairs aren't folded into that cost?

    Zeppo, Nov 15, 2005
  4. sonata32

    hyundaitech Guest

    Are you the original owner? If so, don't replace the water pump. It's
    warranted for 10 years/100k miles.

    If you're the original owner, you do have some incentive to install a
    factory belt. Hyundai will continue to cover it for the 10 year/100k mile
    period as long as you replace the belt with a Hyundai part. There's
    nothing wrong with calling Midas (or anywhere else) and asking them if
    they'd do the work using a factory belt (or all factory parts).
    Understand they'll probably charge more due to their higher cost, but if
    everything else is reasonable, it may be a good alternative. But also
    consider whether they are competent to do the job. I wouldn't think the
    guys at Midas do a lot of timing belts. This one isn't particularly
    tricky, so someone who's competent and reasonably knowledgeable should be
    able to do a good job. I would also have the timing belt tensioner
    replaced with the timing belt. It's only covered by the 5/60 warranty and
    its failure can cause the same consequences as a failed timing belt.

    Replacing the spark plugs on your car will require removing the plenum.
    Again, you'll want to make sure you have someone competent and
    knowledgeable doing the work. You'll also want to make sure they use
    quality parts, because you don't want to have to pay to have the plugs
    replaced again in a relatively short period of time. You may also want to
    consider having the plug wires replaced (with preferably OEM parts) while
    the plenum is off.
    hyundaitech, Nov 15, 2005
  5. Do you own any basic tools? Even if you don't, you can do the tune up
    work yourself (plugs, wires, oil change, air filter change, etc.) and
    save more than the cost of buying a few tools. Once you own them, tools
    are like money in the bank, as they'll save you more every time you use
    them. As long as you document what you've done in the maintenance log
    that came with the car, you're covered under warranty. The log also
    tells you everything that needs to be done @ 60K miles. If money is
    tight, you can put off the timing belt change for a little while if
    necessary. It's unlikely to fail and as long as you get it done within a
    few K's of 60K miles, Hyundai will be happy. I wouldn't bother with the
    water pump unless there is an obvious problem with it.

    For instructions, part numbers and other info about your car, go to:


    You need to register first (it's free), then you can access Hyundai
    service manuals and check parts prices online. You can even order parts
    and accessories online though your local dealer. BTW, the site only
    works with Internet Explorer.

    I would hesitate to have the service done at any of the larger chains,
    as the quality of the work you'll receive is anyone's guess. Those
    places typically have high employee turnover and good mechanics don't
    want to work at them. Better to check with friends to find a smaller,
    reputable shop that's well established. Tell them you want them to use
    Hyundai parts (a good shop will understand why) or buy the parts
    yourself and drop them off with the car.

    What your dealer told you about parts is not entirely true. Only the
    timing belt and water pump (if you decide to do it) need to be Hyundai
    parts to keep your warranty in effect. Plugs, wires, filters, etc. can
    be aftermarket parts without have ANY effect on your warranty (that's
    federal law). Just use good filters like Purolator and stay away from
    junk like Fram. NGK plugs and wires are always a good bet.

    Now sounds like an ideal time for you to learn some DIY skills. Best of
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 15, 2005
  6. sonata32

    Tom Guest

    $625 for a tuneup??? I don't think the manual calls for more than spark
    plugs, doesn't it? I doubt if it calls for a water pump replacement.
    You're being majorly ripped off.
    Tom, Nov 16, 2005
  7. sonata32

    sonata32 Guest

    Thanks for all who replied to my post. I am the original owner of my sonata.
    I commute 100 miles a day to school thats why my mileage is so high. I have
    never missed an oil change and I replaced transmission oil. I guess I will
    just do the belt for now. Last night when I went to start my car it would
    not want to start. When I turned the key, the ignition was turning but it
    would not catch. The battery is fine and the starter seems to be okay. I let
    it sit for 2 minutes and turned the key it final grabbed and started after a
    few turns. The car was making a "put" noise and wanted to stall but I gave
    it gas and it stayed running. I noticed a odd smelling white smoke coming
    out of the exhaust. This was the first time ever this had happened. The
    weather here in Connecticut has been weird where the temps would go from
    70's to 30's in a matter of 6 hours. Could it be condensation in the gas
    line? Also, when are the tired needed to be changed. My car came with
    Michelin tires which I noticed are really $$$ is there another good tire out
    there someone can recommend.
    sonata32, Nov 16, 2005
  8. sonata32

    hyundaitech Guest

    Regarding the problem with starting the car, could be anything, even a weak

    As far as the tires, go to a reputable tire store near you and explain to
    them you'd like some inexpensive tires of reasonable quality. Most tire
    stores have house brand tires, that while not Michelins, compete well on
    quality with major tire brands for a fraction of the price.
    hyundaitech, Nov 16, 2005
  9. sonata32

    DanK Guest

    When making a decision on the timing belt remember that the 60,000 mile
    recomendation by Hyundai (that needs to be done to maintain the warrenty) is
    a statistical thing. So few belts fail before 60,000 AND 5 years that
    Hyundai deems it almost insignificant and will therefore pay to have
    catastropic engine failure fixed. A key here (and in my case) is time. If
    you put 60,000 miles on in 2 years, the timing belt is MUCH less likely to
    fail than if you take 5 years to do it. 3 extra years of sitting outside in
    weather have got to be significant in terms of belt wear, as do all the
    extra starts and warm-ups. For me, with a 2002 XG350 with 67000 miles, I
    have decided to go to 90,000 miles before doing the timing belt which should
    put me in the 5-6 year time frame. Of coarse, I bought mine used so I have
    no 10/100 warrenty to add in to the equation.

    DanK, Nov 16, 2005
  10. Today, I was quoted $800 to replace the belt in Des Moines. I called
    around and the going rate seems to be between $400 and $550 in other
    midwest cities. I am taking it to Council Bluffs (near Omaha) to have
    it done. I am not pleased with the Des Moines quote.
    rayindesmoines, Nov 16, 2005
  11. sonata32

    Mike Marlow Guest

    Echo this. I have had really good luck with PepBoys Futura tires. They're
    made by Cooper and they are a fraction of the price of the major brands.
    I've always gotten at least the advertised mileage out of them and have been
    very satisfied with the tire performance in rain and snow. I'm in upstate
    NY and we get snow! A tire that will handle long winters, hard pack snow,
    etc. is very important to me. They run quite and they hold up very well -
    no history of broken cords, sidewall failures, etc. Half the price of
    Mike Marlow, Nov 18, 2005
  12. If that's the case, why don't you get snow tires for the winter? The
    difference in performance in snow and ice vs. ANY "all season" tire is
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 19, 2005
  13. Rather than making a long drive, have you checked around to find a good
    independent shop in your area? This work does not have to be done by a
    Hyundai dealer, only with Hyundai parts.
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 19, 2005
  14. sonata32

    Mike Marlow Guest

    Fair question. The reason is that I don't need them. Good radials do the
    job just fine. I haven't had a snow tire on a car in over 30 years.
    Mike Marlow, Nov 20, 2005
  15. You don't know what you're missing.
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 22, 2005
  16. sonata32

    Mike Marlow Guest

    I have a buddy that is in his car all day as an insurance appraiser and the
    company pays for him to put snows on his fleet car. He loves them. I
    suppose there have been a few times where they've been very beneficial to
    him when he's had to plow his way in and out of driveways that hadn't been
    cleared, but we do a lot of driving to and from the same places (often at
    the same time) and there's been absolutely no difference in the way our
    vehicles have handled normal winter road conditions. By normal, I mean
    loose snow, hardpack, ice, etc. The stuff we normally encounter in a winter
    around here. He swears by his snows though. Guess I can't argue with the
    folks who like them, but like I said - I have just never had the need. I
    suppose he could prove that he can get going better than I can with the more
    aggressive tread, and does not have to be quite as gentle taking off as me,
    but those types of benefits just don't matter that much to me. The
    difference in performance with his Grand Prix with snows and my Regal with
    all seasons is just pretty trivial. Now - my plow truck, that's a different
    story. Lugs. Deep lugs. Lots deep lugs...
    Mike Marlow, Nov 23, 2005
  17. Have you actually driven these vehicles back to back under the same
    conditions? If not, how do you know what the difference is?
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 30, 2005
  18. sonata32

    Mike Marlow Guest

    Yeah - that's what I was trying to point out above. Besides that, I have
    had snows many years ago. Many years ago. For my style of driving and the
    cars I drive, I just don't see enough benefit to me. That's not a statement
    that those who like them shouldn't, it's just a statement that I've been
    there, done that and I'm fine with my all season radials.
    Mike Marlow, Nov 30, 2005
  19. sonata32

    Jody Guest

    uhh theres been many tests done in scandinavia etc of the benefits of proper
    winter tires...
    I know fom experience, I switch to winters every year..
    have you ever walked on ice with runners with rubber that goes hard? same
    This moring i opened our door, snow up to my kness.
    everyone with all seasons in our apt block were stuck the min they backed
    i value my life, for the sake of my family,my man,my nieces and nephews.
    Thats far worth more than what id save by not going to proper tires to suit
    the conditions.
    im not hear to argue the point, just wanted to state mine.
    Jody, Nov 30, 2005
  20. sonata32

    Mike Marlow Guest

    That's fair - and I'm only stating mine as well. I live in Central NY where
    we get approximately 300" of snow per year. I know well what driving in
    snow is all about. Yes - we get snow up to our knees also. And... I have
    driven through it as well. I don't try to convince people that they don't
    need snow tires, I simply state that I don't use them and I have no
    problems. I don't get stuck, I don't run off the road and I don't lose
    control of my car. My '98 Regal has 150,000 miles on it so I don't sit at
    home and not put on any miles either. We have 5 vehicles registered in my
    family. Only my truck, which plows snow, has anything more than all season
    radials in good condition. All four of the vehicles with ASR's navigate the
    winters here just fine. Like you, I know from experience.
    Mike Marlow, Nov 30, 2005
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