2000 Sonata V6

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by DonaldFE, May 29, 2006.

  1. DonaldFE

    DonaldFE Guest

    The car has 106,000 miles on it with the original set of ignition wires. I
    have the mechanical auto manual but never purchased the electrical manual.
    What is the easiest way to chance the wires.
     
    DonaldFE, May 29, 2006
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  2. DonaldFE

    Matt Whiting Guest

    The easiest way is generally one at a time so you don't risk getting
    them mixed up. If you pull them all loose at once, you may have fun
    getting the right wire to the right plug.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 29, 2006
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  3. DonaldFE

    twfsa Guest

    How hard is it to get at the wires on the firewall side of the engine, on my
    daughters 04 V6 the plenuim has to be removed to change them, when we do a
    tune up I am going to have the rear wires changed just in case there's a
    problem in the future, and the plenuim won't have to come off again.

    The dealer said a set of OEM wires was asbout $140.00

    Tom
     
    twfsa, May 30, 2006
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  4. DonaldFE

    Mike Marlow Guest

    It'd be a cold day (you know where...) when I'd pay $140 for a set of plug
    wires. Dealers like to scare people with suggestions that other wires might
    not be as good, but the truth is that any good set of wires will be every
    bit as good as Hyundai wires. There's no magic in plug wires. Aftermarket
    wires will be 1/3 the cost of OEM wires.
     
    Mike Marlow, May 30, 2006
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  5. Specifically, NGK wires are very good and reasonably priced. Bosch wires
    are generally very good. MSW wires are good.
     
    Brian Nystrom, May 30, 2006
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  6. DonaldFE

    hyundaitech Guest

    I'll disagree on this point. I've not seen aftermarket plug wires that
    compare to factory plug wires (for a fraction of the cost).
     
    hyundaitech, May 30, 2006
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  7. DonaldFE

    Mike Marlow Guest

    Well then, I guess we're at an impasse on this point. I maintain my
    position. I've used aftermarket plug wires for decades and have never had a
    set perform less than what came as OEM equipment. What are your
    observations that cause you to feel this way?
     
    Mike Marlow, May 30, 2006
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  8. DonaldFE

    twfsa Guest

    Kinda difficult to carry in your own parts to the dealer when you want a
    tune up, if you go to an independent there's a chance they will screw
    something up just taking the engine apart to do the tune up.

    Tom
     
    twfsa, May 30, 2006
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  9. DonaldFE

    hyundaitech Guest

    I've purchased several aftermarket wire sets myself with unhappy results
    and have seen many customers' vehicles with new aftermarket sets that arc,
    or have the ends pull off, etc. when I test the ignition system.

    Back when Hyundai parts quality wasn't the best, I didn't mind using an
    aftermarket part to get the car out the door, but even then, I refused to
    use aftermarket wires because I'd seen so many problems with them. One of
    the brands Brian mentioned was one I'd had trouble with.

    In principle, I agree. There shouldn't be anything special about plug
    wires. It's pretty simple technology. I think one of the problems was
    that nearly every set I saw skimped on the insulator. Thinking back, this
    may also mean they skimped on the conductor material as well. In any
    event, the OP should be able to do better than Tom's $140. My dealer
    doesn't even charge that much, and we're pretty high on our pricing.

    The fact we disagree is no problem, Mike. It just means we've had
    different experiences. I thought it was important to present mine, and
    I'm also glad I've heard your experience as well as Brian's.
     
    hyundaitech, May 30, 2006
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  10. DonaldFE

    Mike Marlow Guest

    That's kind of a silly statement to make Tom. There are probably more
    competent independents out there than there are competent dealer's shops.
    Not probably - there are. One who makes a statement about "taking an engine
    apart" to do a tune up should probably not be quite so critical of the folks
    who really do understand engines. And no... I'm not an independent
    mechanic. Not even a dealer mechanic.
     
    Mike Marlow, May 31, 2006
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  11. DonaldFE

    Mike Marlow Guest

    I appreciate you sharing your reasons for disliking them. As you say - our
    experiences differ and that's what forms our preferences. I always like to
    hear why a guy feels a particular way about an alternative. You never know
    when you'll learn something - or share a piece of knowledge.
     
    Mike Marlow, May 31, 2006
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  12. DonaldFE

    Mike Marlow Guest

    BTW Tom - what I should have included in my previous response was that by
    all means - if you feel more comfortable with the dealer and with OEM parts,
    then by all means, that's the way to go. You are the one who has to be
    comfortable in the end. I was only trying to provide the insight that many
    people have had great success with wires for far less than was originally
    posted. Likewise, hyundaitech shared a different opinion based on his
    experiences. That's what this forum is all about.
     
    Mike Marlow, May 31, 2006
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  13. DonaldFE

    JS Guest

    Bahahahaha...

    Come on man, way to punish your own credibility.

    I'm starting to wonder if you're the "Hyundai Certified Mechanic" that
    couldn't manage to replace a misdiagnosed "excessively worn crank gear"
    without screwing up... Car left with the same annoying rattle it came
    in with, and 500 miles later the engine jumped 4 teeth of time. Oddly
    enough it kinda survived - they put it back into time and it continues
    to "run" today with extremely reduced fuel economy and performance - it
    also sounds like its got a whole row of bent valves...

    Oh yeah, I was billed for the service to put it back into time, and the
    tow to the next closest Hyundai dealer (100 miles) as the first dealer
    refused to repair their damages. Despite the fact the Hyundai
    representitive I spoke to was nice and seemed interested in helping,
    Hyundai was of no assistance during this situation. Only after an
    entirely excessive amount of 'pushing' we were reimbursed for the
    service, but not the wrecker fee.

    Taught me a lesson about the 10/100 Hyundai powertrain warranty - don't
    use it, you'll be sorry you did. You won't find me buying a damned
    thing at a Hyundai dealer again, thats for sure.

    JS
     
    JS, May 31, 2006
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  14. DonaldFE

    hyundaitech Guest

    JS says:
    "Taught me a lesson about the 10/100 Hyundai powertrain warranty - don't
    use it, you'll be sorry you did. You won't find me buying a damned
    thing at a Hyundai dealer again, thats for sure."

    You've learned the wrong lesson. There's nothing wrong with Hyundai's
    warranty and there's nothing wrong with using it. The problem here is
    that (based on the one side of the story I've heard) the dealer that did
    the work refused to correct their own screw-up.

    Unfortunately, there's little Hyundai can do about that. They cannot
    force the dealer to refund any monies to you (although they can apply
    pressure). I've found Hyundai to be a friendly company that does
    genuinely want to assist people with reasonable problems. And, I agree,
    if the next closest dealer were 100 miles away, I wouldn't be doing any
    dealer purchasing either.

    As to whether I'm the technician, I guess you'll never know.
     
    hyundaitech, May 31, 2006
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