2004 Sonata question

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by Brian Matthews, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. I have the V-6 Sonata, 2004, with 30,000 miles. The dealer said my
    transmission fluid was dirty last time I was in for an oil change. My
    questions are this;

    1. With the 100,000 mile warranty, can I have my local mechanic flush
    and fill the tranny fluid without voiding the warranty?

    2. My Sonata needs new tires already. Even though I've had them
    rotated regularly. Anybody have a recommendation on a good brand/type
    of tires to put on there? My local mechanic can pretty much get me any
    tires I want. I want to get some that will last 40 or 50 thousand
    miles.

    3. I am going to have the anti-freeze flushed at the same time as the
    tranny fluid. Any special hints about doing this?

    Thanks to any and all help.

    Brian
     
    Brian Matthews, Jul 17, 2007
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  2. Brian Matthews

    hyundaitech Guest

    1. Make sure your mechanic uses only SP-III fluid. Other than that, your
    mechanic needs only to not mess up the job.

    2. Michelin tends to be good for treadwear (with the exception of the
    Energy MXV4+ you probably have on your car now). www.tirerack.com has a
    significant section with customer reviews.

    3. Coolant service is straightforward.
     
    hyundaitech, Jul 18, 2007
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  3. Thank You. Off hand, do you know which model Michelin I should ask
    for?

    Also, the coolant needs to be a certain type. One for an aluminum
    block. I read which coolant and Tranny fluid to use so I should be
    good. My mechanic is excellent. I've been going to him for 20 years,
    he gives me cheaper prices than the average customer because he knows
    he can count on me to come back. He also lets me into the garage to
    watch the work, something that's unheard of in this day and age.

    Again, thank you. It really is so nice of you to help people out, even
    with the simplest questions.

    Brian
     
    Brian Matthews, Jul 18, 2007
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  4. Additional;

    You hit it right on the head. The stock tires ARE "MXV4 Plus" but
    they don't say "Energy" anywhere on the tire.

    Brian
     
    Brian Matthews, Jul 18, 2007
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  5. Brian Matthews

    hyundaitech Guest

    I'm not much of an expert on tires. You'd probably do better speaking to
    someone at the tire store for specific recommnedations.
     
    hyundaitech, Jul 18, 2007
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  6. I'm curious If your mechanic is so good and cheap, why do you go to the
    dealer? I've have that good mechanic take a look at the fluid to see if it
    really is dirty. Most are good for 50k or more with no problems. What is
    the interval suggested by Hyundai? Some shops try to push extra services
    you don't really need.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jul 18, 2007
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  7. Brian Matthews

    southluke Guest

    I think your dealer is lying and trying to make extr
    money from a sucker. The manual says 100,000 for transmission oi
    change. If your oil is dirty at 30,000 miles, the transmission ha
    problems and should be replaced under warranty. Call Hyundai Americ
    and report this crooked dealer
     
    southluke, Jul 18, 2007
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  8. Yes, I always go to the dealer for oil changes.

    My book says inspect the tranny fluid every 30,000 miles and to change
    every 60,000 miles.

    And when I went to the dealer and they told me my pads and rotors were
    shot I refused their outrageous price. It was like $1300 for the
    brakes, tranny fluid, oil and coolant. I ended up getting the brakes
    done, with parts from the dealer, for under $500. My mechanic pointed
    out to me, when the car was on the rack, I needed new tires. He said
    he could get the stock ones for me if I wanted. I said no way, the car
    only has 30k on it and I had them rotated frequently.

    As for my mechanic? He's a professional and keeps detailed records for
    all the cars he works on. And I'm going to keep the receipts for all
    the maintenance he does. He's less than a mile away, compared to the
    Hyundia dealer, about 15 miles away. But I will NOT take a chance on
    my warranty.

    I only started taking this new car (2004, 30,000 miles) to my local
    mechanic since it needed more than an oil changes. It hasn't been in
    for warranty work and the only maintenance I've needed so far is oil
    changes and wiper blades. (other than the brakes I mentioned)

    Brian
     
    Brian Matthews, Jul 18, 2007
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  9. Brian Matthews

    Leonardo Guest

    I have over 60k on the Bridgestone Turanza LS tires. IMHO...well worth
    every penny I paid.

    Perform well in all conditions, good handling, pretty quiet, and 'no
    hydroplaning'

    L.
     
    Leonardo, Jul 18, 2007
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  10. If he (and you) are keeping records of the maintenance, there is no chance
    taken. Most of the time, dealers are more expensive and some try to sell
    work that in not needed. Some independent shops do as well, of curse so
    when you find a trustworthy shop, stick with them.

    Dealers are usually better for some specific to brand problems because they
    see them all the time and have training more on that brand. Routine work,
    as you have found, can be d one more economically elsewhere in most cases.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jul 18, 2007
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  11. My mechanic recommends Good Year Assurance Triple Tread tires. these
    are an 80,000 mile tire. The complete package, including hazard care,
    is $525.00. Seems like a lot but I want good tires and I read good
    reviews on these tires. How much were your Bridgestone tires?

    Brian
     
    Brian Matthews, Jul 18, 2007
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  12. Brian Matthews

    southluke Guest

    $525 is not a bad price for the Goodyear TriplTred's.
    Sam's Club price is $503.12 plus tax. Includes road hazard, balance
    etc. I think they are worth the money
     
    southluke, Jul 19, 2007
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  13. Brian Matthews

    Leonardo Guest

    Sorry, have them for over 4 years already. Don't remember what they cost.

    L.
     
    Leonardo, Jul 19, 2007
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  14. On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:51:14 -0500,

    Just got home. My mechanic installed all 4 tires, checked the
    alignment, balanced the tires, flushed the coolant and tranny fluid
    all for $675.00. Much cheaper than a dealer. The tires come with the
    road hazard and free rotation. Plus, once a year, I get free
    balancing.

    Brian
     
    Brian Matthews, Jul 19, 2007
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  15. Brian Matthews

    Steve R. Guest

    Steve R., Jul 21, 2007
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  16. Why? Hyundai does not recommend the service so why should you believe the
    dealer whose main interest is making a profit? Check what the manual says,
    the Hyundai engineers know more than the service writer/salesman at the
    dealership.

    It's your money . . . . .
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jul 21, 2007
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  17. Brian Matthews

    Steve R. Guest

    Edwin,

    To dispute your point, I just checked my manual and due to "severe
    conditionons", the manual recommends relacing the fluid every 30k miles.
    Details below:


    Maintenance Item Operation Interval
    Driving Condition
    AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLE FLUID Replace EVERY 30,000
    MILES (48,000 KM) A, C, E, F, G, H, I

    SEVERE DRIVING CONDITIONS-

    A - Repeatedly driving short distance of less than 5miles (8km) in normal

    temperature or less than 10miles (16km) in freezing temperature

    B - Extensive engine idling or low speed driving for long distances

    C - Driving on rough, dusty, muddy, unpaved, graveled or salt- spread roads

    D - Driving in areas using salt or other corrosive materials or in very cold
    weather

    E - Driving in sandy areas

    F - Driving in heavy traffic area over 90°F (32°C)

    G - Driving on uphill, downhill, or mountain road

    H - Towing a Trailer, or using a camper, or roof rack

    I - Driving as a patrol car, taxi, other commercial use or vehicle towing

    J - Driving over 100 MPH (170 Km/h)

    K - Frequently driving in stop-and-go conditions


    I happen to fall into the C, E, and F categories. Huyndai engineers wrote
    this thing. Cheap insurance in exchange for a new transmission
    post-warranty. In addition, all of my vehicle maintenance are deductions...

    My dealer isn't out to get me, they saved me $600 by bringing in a paintless
    dent removal guy to fix some jerk's failed attempt to control his door in
    the wind. Cost- $0.

    My $25 oil change comes with a free wash and includes Castrol GTX 10-30W. If
    it's going to be over an hour, I get a loaner to take care of errands while
    waiting. Some dealers actually care! What brand of oil are you getting? I
    bet it's not Castrol. May the "P" stuff?

    Steve

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    Steve R., Jul 22, 2007
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  18. As I said, check the manual and you did. Very few of us fit into those
    categories. For most of us, it merely suggests checking the fluid.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jul 22, 2007
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  19. Brian Matthews

    Steve R. Guest

    Thanks for the reply. Yes, I don't fall into the average category as most in
    the group. Man, I don't even fall into that category in real life! I hate
    parting with my duckets as most though and I scrutinize my dealer as well as
    any interaction with a store/shop/stealership/parts store etc. It's become a
    sad world...


    Steve

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    Steve R., Jul 22, 2007
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  20. Brian Matthews

    mark Guest

    Kumho tires are great for the price, I think as good as michelin

    Mark
     
    mark, Jul 24, 2007
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