2004 Sonata Transmission Fluid

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by Brian Matthews, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. Is there a special transmission fluid I need to use to add or flush an
    automatic, 6 cylinder 2004 Sonata? The owner's manual is somewhat
    confusing. I really don't want to void the warranty by adding the
    wrong fluid. TYIA for any/all help.

    Brian
     
    Brian Matthews, Dec 16, 2008
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  2. Brian Matthews

    TheIceAge05 Guest

    Your 2004 Sonata tranny fluid is "Diamond ATF SP3" which can only be bought
    at Hyundai, Kia or Mitsubishi dealership.
    Use any other type of fluid, and you will most likely regret it down the
    road.

    TheIceAge05
    www.hyundai-forums.com
    www.hmaservice.com
     
    TheIceAge05, Dec 16, 2008
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  3. Brian Matthews

    Mike Marlow Guest

    In what way is it confusing Brian?
     
    Mike Marlow, Dec 16, 2008
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  4. Brian - if finding a Hyundai/Kia/Mitsubishi dealer is hard due to distance,
    or the price they charge for Diamond ATF SPIII (I think it is actually IV
    now) is prohibitive, just recently, Castrol has started making an IMPORT
    Multi-Vehicle ATF.

    It is the first multi-vehicle ATF that is not a Dexron-based formula, and
    the first one that lists full compatibility with Hyundai/Kia/Mitsubishi
    SP-III. It is available through popular auto parts stores like Advance
    Auto.

    But make sure that it is the IMPORT, and not any other one. And make sure
    you NEVER use any kind of Dexron-based fluid in the transmission. If you
    do, you will be fine with this.
     
    Rev. Tom Wenndt, Dec 17, 2008
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  5. Brian Matthews

    TheIceAge05 Guest

    Rev. Tom;
    If you are suggesting that Hyundai will accept warranty repairs to your
    transmission, after you put in this Castrol ATF....
    I hope that God is by your side in a court of justice, cause their is no way
    that Hyundai will warranty their transmission with anything else then
    Diamond ATF SP-3 in it.
    Castrol list their product as compatible, will they help you out in court,
    when Hyundai refuses warranty claims?
    I do all my maintenence myself, but will always make sure to use the
    recommanded fluid from the car manufactured.
    You might save a dollar now with Castrol; but how much will you save down
    the road with a breakdown?!?

    My 2 cEnTs
    TheIceAge05
    www.hyundai-forums.com
    www.hmaservice.com
     
    TheIceAge05, Dec 17, 2008
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  6. The two vehicles I have used this fluid in are out of warranty.

    And these are transmissions that I get the impression will last far longer
    than the rest of the car will (not that there is anything wrong with the
    rest of the car, but something would have to wear out at some point, won't
    it? But it won't be the transmission).

    And, BTW, I contacted my own Hyundai dealer before I did. What they said to
    me was exactly what I did - SPIII preferred, but use a fluid that is LISTED
    as compatible with SPIII (or IV) and ABSOLUTELY NO Dexron-based fluid.
     
    Rev. Tom Wenndt, Dec 18, 2008
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  7. I ended up taking it into the dealer and having them do it.
    Trans flush and oil change came out to a little over $230.00.
    Too much, IMO, but since I can't do it myself, my choices were my
    local mechanic, who would have put in a "compatible" fluid, or the
    dealer. It's not worth the risk, as others here have pointed out.

    While I was at the dealer, I got the price for the timing belt change
    I'll be needing soon. They quoted me 3 different prices.

    1. Timing belt only; $673.08
    2. Timing belt and new V-Ribbed belt; $697.54
    3. Timing belt, new V-Ribbed belt and water pump; $1228.81

    Does the price of option #2 seem too high? Should I get a quote from a
    different dealer?

    Quote #3 is out of the question. The water pump is under warranty
    until 100,000 miles. I see no reason for making it easier for them at
    my expense.

    Thoughts?
     
    Brian Matthews, Dec 19, 2008
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  8. Brian Matthews

    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    The difference between #1 and #2 does not seem so bad.
    #1 and #3 are too high.
    My thought, check with a good independent shop.
     
    Ed Pawlowski, Dec 19, 2008
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  9. Yes, I would go for #2 for sure if I had the dealer do it.
    I have a great mechanic I've been going to for many years.
    Probably close to 18 years or so. Not only are we on a first name
    basis, but he always does small repairs for me for nothing.
    For instance, I had a burned out tail-light on my Saturn and he caught
    it. (I didn't know about it) He put a new one in there and when I
    asked him how much? He just waved me off and told me to have a nice
    day. He has a professional shop with the same workers for years. But
    when I bring my cars in, he works on them himself. He's put free
    clamps on my exhaust system, greased up my hood cable and has done
    several other thing, all at no cost. He even allows me in the repair
    bay while he works on my car, something just about every shop won't
    allow because of insurance reasons. He also doesn't gouge me (or
    others) on parts. Sure, there's a mark up, but not like every other
    place. For instance? When my Sonata needed brakes, I got the price
    from the dealer and it was something like $1200.00 for all 4 pads and
    4 rotors. Abe (my mechanic) did the job for something like $600.00. I
    don't remember the exact numbers, just that it was a no-brainer. I
    remember the dealer told me it was a 6 to 9 hour labor charge and my
    mechanic had the entire job done in 3 1/2 hours. And that was waiting
    for the parts too.

    That being said? I'm not sure if I want him to do the timing belt. Not
    that I don't trust him, more because of the extended warranty I have.
    I really don't want to get it voided out if the engine fails. But I'll
    tell you what, when I was at the dealer yesterday, they told me the
    price to change my spark plugs (6 cylinder) It was crazy and went in
    one ear and out the other. I know it's a little tricky getting to
    these plugs, but Abe can do it for probably about 1/3 of the cost.
    I'll supply the plugs, bought from the dealer and all I'll pay is
    labor.

    Anyway, I went on a rant. Sorry. That's what happens when I start
    discussing ripoff dealers. So to make a short story long, thanks for
    the advice. : )

    Brian
     
    Brian Matthews, Dec 19, 2008
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  10. Brian Matthews

    Partner Guest

    "I'll supply the plugs, bought from the dealer and all I'll pay is
    labor."

    Dealer wants $20 for each plug, you can buy at auto-zone for 10.
     
    Partner, Dec 20, 2008
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  11. Brian Matthews

    Plague Boy Guest

    Brian Matthews wrote:
    Datapoint: The Hyundai dealer here quoted me $400 for the timing
    belt, and $600 with the water pump.

    I was told here that was too high for the water pump, since the
    labor is essentially the same.

    I am still thinking of doing it myself in the spring; my 2002
    Sonata 2.7 is out of warranty.
     
    Plague Boy, Dec 20, 2008
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