2006 Sonata gas mileage

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by Matt Whiting, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I just made my 4th fill-up since buying my Sonata GL 4 cylinder/5 speed.
    Here is the data:

    tank 1 27.04
    tank 2 29.39
    tank 3 27.01
    tank 4 26.90
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    Average 27.46

    Not terrible, but not what I hoped for. The EPA rating is 24/34 and I
    drive 70-80% highway. Hopefully, more miles and warmer weather this
    summer will bump this up a little. My 1996 Plymouth Grand Voyager with
    the 3.3L V-6 and automatic transmission (and 178,000 miles!) was getting
    22 MPG before its demise. Only getting 5 MPG more than the much larger
    van is a touch disappointing.

    What are others experiencing with their Sonatas?


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 26, 2006
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    Rob Guest

    I have the V6. I'm getting 20.7 wit most driving in town. The other brands
    similar cars get better fuel mileage but I knew this going into the
    purchase. We still love the car.
     
    Rob, Jan 27, 2006
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    Tom Guest

    After 4000 miles of a mix of in-town and highway driving, my computer shows
    24.8 mpg for the 4 cylinder version. It's really obvious if you watch the
    computer how in-town driving drags down the average. That's where driving
    technique has so much to do with it. Stomp on the gas and suffer. Ease on
    the gas and enjoy.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Jan 27, 2006
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  4. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Yes, I drove particularly gently this last tank and set the cruise at 55
    for my 17 mile commute to work on mostly level 2 and 4 lane highway. I
    can't be much more gentle than that! That salesman told me he was
    getting 29 with his LX V-6. I have to say I no longer believe that.

    I'd read that the Hyundais were much poorer on fuel economy than Toyota,
    Honda or GM, but I didn't think it would be so close to the EPA city
    rating for what is mostly highway driving. Oh well, I'm still hoping it
    will get better with a few more miles!

    If it stays under 30 for my style of driving, I'll be an unhappy camper,
    and an Camry owner next time.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 27, 2006
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    Barry Scott Guest

    I haven't kept a good record, but that sounds similar to what I'm
    getting. I remember a low of 26.2 and a high of 28.4. I've got the GLS
    4-cylinder auto (one of the first made in Alabama, which is where I
    live) and closing in on 2500 miles. All of the driving so far has been
    commuting to/from work, about a 35-mile trip with about 20 miles
    highway. Part of the city driving is through a major road construction
    zone, so lots of stop and go and slow moving. I'd like to get out on the
    highway for a longer trip just to see how it does. I'm a little
    disappointed in the MPG so far, given the 24/33 rating. I had been
    getting 24-27 MPG with the '94 Camry (175,000) that I traded in for the
    Sonata. Overall, though, I'm very pleased with the new car.

    I've also noticed that the computer MPG on the GLS seems to be higher
    than what I've calculated by hand. I have been resetting this after each
    fill-up. Have wondered if others have noticed differences.

    Barry
     
    Barry Scott, Jan 27, 2006
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  6. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Well, matching your Camry isn't too bad, although I think the new
    Camry's do a little better than the old.

    I don't have a computer onboard so all of mine are done by hand and I
    can't offer you anything here.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 27, 2006
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    Eric G. Guest

    Unfortunately, I am reading this at work, and don't have all of my data
    in front of me, but my mileage curve with the V6 has been similar to
    yours. Basically subtract 4 MPG from your numbers and you've got mine.
    Which follows the EPA difference of 4 MPG in the V6's 20/30 MPG rating.

    I am just shy of 6,000 miles, however, and my mileage has been steadily
    DECREASING. As I have noticed in my previous Hyundais, this seems to be
    the trend until you get close to 10,000 miles when things improve
    greatly.

    I am also disappointed with my results, I must admit, but I consider it
    a trade off. Either you pay much more up front for a Toyota or Honda,
    that probably get better mileage "out of the box", or you pay for it on
    the back end with Hyundai in the form of gasoline payments.

    Buying a comparable Japanese car would have cost me $8,000-$10,000 more
    up front. That will buy a lot of gas.

    Otherwise, I can't find anything other than minor/ergonomic flaws with
    the car.

    Eric
     
    Eric G., Jan 27, 2006
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  8. Turn off the engine at stop lights and watch your mileage go way up.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jan 27, 2006
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    Eric G. Guest

    My computer also reports a bit higher mileage, but I've found it to be in
    the neighborhood of 0.1 MPG. I consider that to be pretty accurate
    actually.

    While I've personally never owned another car with a MPG computer in it, I
    have rented several that seemed to be off by as much as 5 MPG one way or
    the other.

    I think the cost would be prohibitve to install something more accurate
    than what we have.

    Eric
     
    Eric G., Jan 27, 2006
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  10. It sounds like the computer in my Elantra. While it's generally within
    ..5 MPG of the calculated mileage, it's been off by as much as 3 MPG at
    times. Some of that is due to variations in gas pumps, but that's not
    enough to explain all of the variation.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jan 27, 2006
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    bop Guest

    I have a 2006 GLS4 that is new. We took a trip on the hilly Taconic
    Parkway in NY with the temps 30-40F. Each way was 147 miles, so about
    350 RT. I drove at 55mph or less with my wife and some luggage.This
    was almost all open road driving. I topped the tank off at the start
    and finish. We averaged 34mpg. The car had only about 250 miles at the
    start of the trip. Johnboy
     
    bop, Jan 27, 2006
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  12. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    That is very interesting. I wonder if there is some "curve" programmed
    into the ECU that runs the engine a little rich during break-in and then
    moves to a leaner mixture later on. That sure is a curious one. Well,
    I've always kept a log in all of my vehicles and I record every tankful
    and all of my maintenance. So, I'll post the results here from time to
    time and may even enter them into Excel to plot the trend.

    That's probably true, although where I live the delta for a Camry was
    more like $4,000. I paid $16,300 after the rebates were applied to the
    price I negotiated. I could have got a similar low-end Camry for about
    $20,500. It didn't have all of the safety equipment that the Sonata
    has, but it was close. The resale value of a Toyota typically more than
    offsets the purchase price differential, unless you run your cars until
    they die as I do and then it is less of a factor.

    I pretty much agree, although I consider the poor heater to be a major
    flaw given my climate and the throttle and clutch is a pretty major
    flaw, but this only applies to standard shift. Otherwise, I agree that
    the car is pretty solid overall with only minor issues.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 27, 2006
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    Barry Scott Guest

    Last time I checked, it was off by 1.8. First time I've had the trip
    computer as well, so didn't know if that was to be expected. It's not a
    big deal to me really since I'll normally calculate by hand anyway.
    FWIW, I leave the computer on the trip range setting and like that
    feature a lot.

    Barry
     
    Barry Scott, Jan 28, 2006
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  14. No, there isn't. The ECU does learn from the sensors on the engine and
    exhaust system, but it's only designed to optimize the fuel air ratio
    and timing for emissions and performance.

    My Elantras mileage improved rapidly at first, then gradually up to 10K
    miles or so. I Eric's has gotten worse, it's probably due to a problem
    with his car, winter blend fuel or a change in his driving habits.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jan 28, 2006
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  15. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    My Chrysler minivans also adapt to the driving style. If you drive more
    aggressively, the vehicle (well, the transmission for sure) will adapt
    to your style and rais shift points, etc. Likewise, if you drive more
    sedately, as I typically do, it would lower shift points and try to
    maximize economy over performance. I was wondering if the Hyundai
    similarly had some adaptability programmed into the control systems.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 28, 2006
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  16. Perhaps with the transmission, but I wouldn't know, since I've never
    owned a car with an automatic tranny. I adapt my shift points to my
    heart's content.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jan 29, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Likewise, but the wife likes the automatics so her minivans have all
    been slush box equipped. :)

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 29, 2006
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    CNP Guest

    I drive a 2006 GLS V6. Just crossed 1,000 miles. Very little highway
    driving. I drive conservatively (shift the gear to neutral during long
    stops).

    Computer shows ~32 miles per hour speed and ~21 miles per gallon.

    Significantly lower than '96 4-cyl Camry it replaced (~24 mpg), but I
    shouldn't be comparing the two.

    My colleague owns a 2006 4-cyl Camry and he told me that he also gets around
    21 mpg. His theory is that the cylinders in newer Camry are bigger than
    those in '96 Camry.

    So far, we are happy with the new Sonata.
     
    CNP, Jan 31, 2006
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    Mike Marlow Guest

    Glad you're happy with the new Sonata. Don't place a lot of faith in the
    computer though. Calculate your gas mileage yourself when you fill up.
    You'll find some significant discrepancy.
     
    Mike Marlow, Jan 31, 2006
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    Eric Guest

    Sorry I can't help with the Sonata, but I drive a 2004 Chevrolet
    (Malibu) Classic, which is almost the same size and has almost the same
    EPA estimates (24/34). The reason I check out this newsgroup is that I
    have my eye on getting an '06 Sonata with the four-cylinder at some
    point, though I'm not sure the finances will work out for now.

    Anyway, don't feel bad. I just posted on the Malibu newsgroup that the
    one big disappointment I've had with the Classic is fuel economy. It's
    not what I hoped for or expected, and nowhere near the 24/34 EPA
    sticker.

    I average 23-24 mpg on mixed highway/city driving, sane legal speeds,
    no burning rubber, windows all the way up, no heavy loads, and with a
    clean air filter, newly changed Mobil 1 full-synthetic oil, and new
    Kelly snow tires set to 32 psi. Also it's been a fairly mild winter
    around here. (Northeastern PA)

    It's been a bitter disappointment when on the whole I've been quite
    satisifed with the car. (That's one reason I'm attracted to the '06
    Sonata. In some ways it looks like a newer, safer, more advanced, very
    slightly larger version of the Malibu....for just a few bucks more.)

    My theory is that larger cars (3050+ lbs) with a four-cylinder will not
    get the EPA sticker mileage under anything but IDEAL conditions. Most
    of the time they won't even be close.
    Smaller cars, such as my old Saturn SL2, can come much closer to
    sticker fuel economy figures in real-world driving conditions.

    There's a point past which you cannot defy the laws of physics. A close
    look at EPA sticker figures from the '06 model year shows some strange
    sticker readings.

    For one thing, the Sonata with automatic transmission is rated slightly
    higher than the Chevy Cobalt, a much smaller car. Does anyone believe a
    Chevy Impala, at 3,553 lbs., with a V-6 really gets 31 mpg, even on the
    highway at the speed limit, consistently? For that matter, can it be
    true that a few models get better highway mpg with the auto tranny than
    with the stick?

    Bottom line is that EPA sticker figures must be viewed with extreme
    skepticism.....

    Regards,
    Eric M
     
    Eric, Feb 1, 2006
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