2006 Sonata GL 5-speed stick fuel mileage

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by Matt Whiting, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Well, I've got three tanks under my belt now and the results are 27, 29
    and 27 again. This is for 70-80% highway driving and 20-30% city, if
    you call the towns I drive through cities (I live in rural northcentral
    PA). My cruising speeds have been 55-60.

    Still too soon to make a call on average mileage, but I admit to being a
    little disappointed. My 1996 Plymouth Grand Voyager with the
    3.3L/4-speed automatic was getting 22 MPG in the same driving regime. I
    thought the much smaller Sonata with a much smaller engine and stick
    shift would easily get 30. Not yet...


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 16, 2006
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    Eric G. Guest

    Don't worry. You'll break 30 MPG after the engine completely breaks in.
    I'm just over 5,000 miles now with mine and I see the mileage slowly
    increasing. Most claims I have heard is that it can take to the 10,000
    mile mark these days to achieve peak mileage.

    This weekend coming, or maybe next, I will be doing my second oil change.
    Finally will be putting in Mobil One synthetic 5W-20. I am hoping to see
    an increase on mileage soon after.
     
    Eric G., Jan 16, 2006
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  3. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Do you have a few of your mileages along the way to show the
    progression? I'm curious to see the curve.

    I've used synthetic for 25 years, but never say enough of a mileage
    difference to even say so. And I compute the gas mileage on every tank
    of gas I run through all of my vehicles and record it in a log in each
    vehicle. I've got 20+ years of data. :)

    Lots of other good reasons to use synthetics, but fuel mileage isn't one
    of them ... Amsoils wild claims notwithstanding.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 16, 2006
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  4. As you probably expect, the gains are largest initially and become
    smaller as the engine breaks in. My '04 Elantra's mileage started out at
    27 and this past summer, I hit 37 on the highway. I doubt that you'll
    see that with a bigger car and a bigger engine, but you should see a
    significant gain over time.
    I switched to sythetics in both the engine and the transmission.
    Although the summer gains were small (1-2 mpg), I don't lose as much in
    the winter as in other cars I've owned that I used natural oils in.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jan 17, 2006
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    Mike Marlow Guest


    I lost track in all of the earlier conversations Brian - what synthetics did
    you switch over to? Both for the tranny and for engine oil. What filters
    are you using for the engine now?
     
    Mike Marlow, Jan 17, 2006
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  6. The transmission requires a GL-4 lubricant and I'm using Redline MT-90.
    There was a recent TSB from Hyundai suggesting a thinner lubricant than
    the originally recommended 75W-90, so Redline MTL may work, too. The key
    is that you MUST use a GL-4 lube, as it's necessary for proper
    synchronizer operation. Amsoil also makes one and I think Royal Purple
    does, too.

    In the engine, I just use whatever full synthetic 5W-30 oil that I can
    find on sale. For a while, Walmart was selling their full synthetic
    5W-30 Super Tech oil in 5 quart jugs for ~$12, but I haven't seen it in
    over a year. Once I use up what I have on-hand, I'll probably end up
    using Mobil One, since that's what's most commonly on sale around here.

    BTW, I did some research on the Walmart oil before buying it. It's a
    full synthetic (not a blend) that's produced for them by a
    well-respected oil blender that blends motor oils for many of the brand
    names you see on the shelves. Analysis reports show it to be equivalent
    to other synthetic oils in terms of viscosity, additives, etc.

    I've been using Purolator Pure One filters. The part number is PL14459.
    I had been using the slightly larger PL24458 (for a bit of extra
    filter/oil capacity), but they discontinued it this past summer.
    Purolator filters meet the OEM filter specs for proper bypass valve
    pressure and have a filter medium that's at least as good.

    Stay away from Fram filters; they're junk and they can cause problems
    with Hyundai engines. There is a TSB out about that as well, though
    Hyundai doesn't specifically name Fram filters as the problem, probably
    for fear of being sued.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jan 17, 2006
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  7. I also don't think, in the long run, you will be disappointed.

    Remember also though that, beyond the fact that you are still in break-in,
    you are also still in January. I have a couple of vehicles that are easily
    over 30 mpg in the Summertime. But in Winter they max out at 27.

    Another factor: Usually, we run our defrosters a lot, especially if we have
    to drive at night. Even the "high-low" setting is also a defrost setting,
    and any defrost setting runs the compressor. The compressor seems to take
    an even bigger bite out of mileage in Winter than it usually does.

    I do still wonder, especially with the close EPA numbers, whether a 4 with
    an automatic will end up doing as well or even slightly better than your
    manual, especially on the highway.

    But I hope you enjoy it.

    Green Valley Giant
     
    Rev. Tom Wenndt, Jan 17, 2006
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  8. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I'll never know as I'm not going to buy a second Sonata! :)

    So far, it isn't a bad car. Part of my problem was getting spoiled by
    my Chrysler minivans. Even though they are a little larger than I like,
    they are extremely comfortable to drive, quiet, handle resonably well,
    have great HVAC, controls, etc.

    The Sonata is a nice car, but it has a few quirks that I wasn't able to
    catch on a test drive.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 17, 2006
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  9. That's why I installed a switch in my Elantra that allows me to manually
    control the A/C compressor. I keep it turned off unless I specifically
    want it for cooling or defogging. '01 -'03 Elantras can be modified to
    allow the A/C switch to control the compressor independently by simply
    cutting one wire, but the control module in newer cars is different.
    Canadian cars have independent compressor control standard.
    Not likely. From what I've seen, Hyundai automatics struggle to get
    close to their EPA ratings, but their manual transmission cars can
    readily exceed them.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jan 18, 2006
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