2006 Sonata Induction Service!

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Vineeth

I have a 2006 Sonata V6 with approximately 17500 miles on it. I have
been regularly taking it to the dealer for oil changes & tire
rotations etc. When I took it last week the service engineer sounded
quite surprised that I hadn't done an induction service at 15k itself.
He advised me to do it but I was short on time & not too sure it was
absolutely important. He also kept trying to convince me to fill the
tires with nitrogen.
The Nitrogen part I have read about here & at other places & I am not
convinced it is needed; However I don't want to skip an induction
service if it is really needed. TIA for any advice...
NB Nitrogen is $39 & induction service $89.
 
Vineeth said:
I have a 2006 Sonata V6 with approximately 17500 miles on it. I have
been regularly taking it to the dealer for oil changes & tire
rotations etc. When I took it last week the service engineer sounded
quite surprised that I hadn't done an induction service at 15k itself.
He advised me to do it but I was short on time & not too sure it was
absolutely important. He also kept trying to convince me to fill the
tires with nitrogen.
The Nitrogen part I have read about here & at other places & I am not
convinced it is needed; However I don't want to skip an induction
service if it is really needed. TIA for any advice...
NB Nitrogen is $39 & induction service $89.
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What's an induction service? I must have been sleeping when this service was
added to the list of must dos : )

I agree with you on the Nitrogen crap. Yes, nitrogen molecules ARE bigger
than oxygen. But nitrogen already comprises 80% of the air we put in our
tires. IMHO, somebody created a great new revenue source and now it's a
"must do" --- NOT.
 
I can give you a good price on a bridge...<grin> Change the oil, change
the air filter every blue moon, and drive contentedly off into the sunset.
FWIW my 06 lx has 62000 trouble free miles with oil changes every 4k
miles(or so), an airfilter or two replaced, and a handy tire pressure gauge
in the glove box. Happy motoring !
 
I suspect a lot of Dealers try to ease a few more dollars out of
your pocket with items over and above the manufacturers specifications.
Down here in Gosford, NSW, Aust every time my Sonata is serviced or even
has a minor repair looked at its " we,ll need to maintain the injectors".
This costs ~$90.
What ever this "maintenance" is there is never any evidence of mechanical
removal/replacement,
seems to be just putting a bottle of fuel system cleaner in the tank.
I can buy this bottle for ~$10:00 at the local autoparts.
The Hyundai manual specifically says things should not be added to petrol or
oil , the petrol
companies say its not needed and I,ve never been prompted by any other car
I,ve owned to have
it done and never had any service issues with the injection system. Load of
cobblers.
I,m with the other responder, what the hell is an "Induction Service"
Cheers
John
 
Sounds like he is trying to induce you to take more money out of your
wallet. Just let them do what the book says. Scams like that are the
reason I never have a dealer service my cars.
 
Vineeth said:
I have a 2006 Sonata V6 with approximately 17500 miles on it. I have
been regularly taking it to the dealer for oil changes & tire
rotations etc. When I took it last week the service engineer sounded
quite surprised that I hadn't done an induction service at 15k itself.
He advised me to do it but I was short on time & not too sure it was
absolutely important. He also kept trying to convince me to fill the
tires with nitrogen.
The Nitrogen part I have read about here & at other places & I am not
convinced it is needed; However I don't want to skip an induction
service if it is really needed. TIA for any advice...
NB Nitrogen is $39 & induction service $89.
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I have a '06 Sonata LX with 20000 Kms on it , so approx 12500 miles and
never heard about "induction service"

Can't answer about the "induction service" but for the Niotrogen.

I have my tires filled with nitrogen, and I am very happy with it. Pressure
is more stable, and I am "supposed" to save on gas. True or not??

But I will never pay for Nitrogne. My local Costco Wholesale fills tires
with Nitrogen for... free! I don't think it worth $39.

Regards,

Shaman
 
Shaman said:
I have a '06 Sonata LX with 20000 Kms on it , so approx 12500 miles and
never heard about "induction service"

Can't answer about the "induction service" but for the Niotrogen.

I have my tires filled with nitrogen, and I am very happy with it.
Pressure is more stable, and I am "supposed" to save on gas. True or not??

But I will never pay for Nitrogne. My local Costco Wholesale fills tires
with Nitrogen for... free! I don't think it worth $39.

Regards,

Shaman
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I agree with the "Nitrogen approach"! That's why I always make sure I have
my tires filled with the 80%-Nitrogen formula. And it's FREE!
 
Shaman said:
I have my tires filled with nitrogen, and I am very happy with it.
Pressure is more stable, and I am "supposed" to save on gas. True or not??
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How stable is more stable? I've not added or let out any air in my tires in
15 months and 31,000 miles. Aside from making my billfold a little lighter,
I don't see any advantage to nitrogen. Perhaps in 200 mph race cars and
jumbo jets that go to 36000 feet and back, but not in my everyday driver.
 
Shaman said:
I have a '06 Sonata LX with 20000 Kms on it , so approx 12500 miles and
never heard about "induction service"

Can't answer about the "induction service" but for the Niotrogen.

I have my tires filled with nitrogen, and I am very happy with it. Pressure
is more stable, and I am "supposed" to save on gas. True or not??

But I will never pay for Nitrogne. My local Costco Wholesale fills tires
with Nitrogen for... free! I don't think it worth $39.
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It isn't free. You just aren't seeing the cost explicitly.

Matt
 
They are speaking of the cleaning the throttle body. On an older car with
maybe some deposits causing the throttle plate to stick it may do some
good. On a car with 17000 it is a waste of money. I wonder what the
hyundaitech has to say on these " services" Scott
 
zonie said:
They are speaking of the cleaning the throttle body. On an older car with
maybe some deposits causing the throttle plate to stick it may do some
good. On a car with 17000 it is a waste of money. I wonder what the
hyundaitech has to say on these " services" Scott
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OK, that makes sense. Although I've driven cars to 200k and never had that
problem.
 
It's not just the dealer that's trying to sell unnecessary services. I've
seen cars come from Mechants or Jiffy Lube having fluids unnecessarily
flushed there.
 
They're probably doing more than pouring a bottle in the tank. Most
professional injector cleanings are done by attaching a pressurized
container of a flammable cleaning agent to the fuel delivery system and
disabling the fuel pump. Then the vehicle is run off of the chemical.

Most of these chemicals I've used, usually name brand addive company's
chemicals, seem to accomplish nothing. The best I've ever seen for
cleaning injectors is the GM-recommended procedure. Take a pressurizeable
container, add 80% gasoline and 20% GM top engine cleaner. (These are
estimates, I don't recall for certain). Pressurize the container to the
appropriate pressure range to run the engine but not so much as to
overcome the fuel pressure regulator (varies by vehicle). Disable the
fuel pump and run the vehicle. I've fixed some vehicles with clogged or
sticking injectors using this procedure. That's never happened with
anything else.

Injector cleanings have their place, but it isn't regular maintenance. I
could see trying to fix a clogged or stuck injector with this procedure,
but it's simply not economically wise as preventive maintenance. Check
how much it'll cost to replace an injector and compare that to how many
services you'll need to buy to reach that price. Then think about the
number of times you've ever had an injector failure.
 
A proper induction service will not only clean the throttle body, but it'll
also clean the intake manifold and hopefully get some carbon off the top of
the valves.

Similar to my post about the fuel injection services, this isn't necessary
as preventive maintenance unless your driving habits prove that you have a
propensity to have problems which can be remedied by induction services.
Many cars will operate a lifetime without ever having their throttle body
cleaned and without needing any sort of decarboning. Most name-brand
products I've used for this service seem to have little effect beyond the
throttle body. Once again, GM top engine cleaner is the frontrunner.

If you've got a carboning problem, using the GM injector cleaning method
combined with an induction cleaning using the aerosol GM top engine
cleaner (for fuel-injected cars, since there's no carburetor to pour
liquid into) seems to do quite a nice job. I fixed a Kia Sedona with a
cold-start hesitation by doing this. Eventually, Kia came out with a PCM
reprogram that solved the issue, but the root cause was carbon buildup on
the valves.

Many of these additional "services" can be useful, but they shouldn't be
done as regular maintenance. Each one will address certain issues which
may otherwise be much more expensive if repaired either by disassembly to
clean or by parts replacement. Unless you're experiencing an issue which
one of these services has the potential to address, the service is
typically a waste of money.
 
Because my employer offers the Nitrogen service, I was able to put some in
my tires for free. My experience is that the bleed-off of pressure over
time seems to have slowed. Otherwise, if I recall correctly, empirical
evidence shows that expansion and contraction rates are close enough to
that of air to make reduced temperature effects inconsequential.

Can I see the benefit, especially for those who don't check their tires
frequently enough? Yes. Would I pay $40 for it? You've got to be
kidding!
 
Matt Whiting said:
It isn't free. You just aren't seeing the cost explicitly.

Matt
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Well... explain me where the cost is, aside the annual membership fee that
is good for all the purchases in that wharehouse. Never bought a single
tire there. They repairs flats for free, they fills tires with 98% Nitrogen
for free for all the "members".
 
It isn't free. You just aren't seeing the cost explicitly.

Matt
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I guess I can breath a sigh of relief. Today I got a letter from them
again reminding me about how it was recommended .. He said it will
improve my pick up, & I told him my only complaint is the V6 has a bit
more pick up than necessary as it is :)
Well I should check out at my local Costco wholesale whether they
offer it too.. I have the membership as it is so might as well take
advantage of fringe benefits ...
 
Edwin Pawlowski said:
How stable is more stable? I've not added or let out any air in my tires
in 15 months and 31,000 miles. Aside from making my billfold a little
lighter, I don't see any advantage to nitrogen. Perhaps in 200 mph race
cars and jumbo jets that go to 36000 feet and back, but not in my everyday
driver.
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well, i don't "REALLY" know how more stable it is, but I have it for free so
I don't loose anything. But I don't think I will be paying for Nitrogen. Not
$39 like vineeth said!

Where I live winter temperatures go often as low as -25°C, even lower, and
in summer temperature can go as high as 30 - 35°C so in winter -15°F and
lower and in summer as high as 95°F...

Shaman
 
DonC said:
I agree with the "Nitrogen approach"! That's why I always make sure I
have my tires filled with the 80%-Nitrogen formula. And it's FREE!
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Well if I would have to pay for nitrogen, I would use the same formula...
natural air with 80% Nitrogen in it!!

Shaman
 
Shaman said:
Well... explain me where the cost is, aside the annual membership fee that
is good for all the purchases in that wharehouse. Never bought a single
tire there. They repairs flats for free, they fills tires with 98% Nitrogen
for free for all the "members".
Click to expand...

The cost is incrementally added to every product you buy there. Nothing
is free, the only thing that varies is the method of payment.

Matt
 
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