2006 Sonata Oil Change Info

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by GeoUSA, Dec 30, 2005.

  1. GeoUSA

    GeoUSA Guest

    The 3.3 liter engine takes 6.02 American quarts. Quick change shops are
    so accustomed to adding about 5 quarts, it's a good idea to
    double-check their work if you do not visit a Hyundai dealership for
    changes. For that matter, you may want to double check the
    dealership's work. I asked my dealership which oil they used for my
    first change and it was 10w30 instead of the preferred 5w20. I just
    performed my 2nd oil change on this car myself and thought I would
    share my findings...

    While I love most of the changes on the 3.3 06 model, it is a pain to
    change the oil filter. The filter material is stored in a canister on
    top of the engine under the engine cover (which must be removed). A
    10mm socket is needed to remove the engine cover and you will need a
    socket extension for two of the fasteners. My skill at changing the oil
    filter will probably improve, but it's a messy job and requires
    handling, disassembling, and reassembling oily parts. There are two
    oily gaskets to remove and change as well. Perhaps this is a better
    design for the engine or the environment, but from a human standpoint
    give me the old-school, self-contained, disposable filter.

    By the way, I am using Hyundai filters purchased from a dealership and
    Mobil 1 5W20 synthetic oil. Although you are only changing the
    paper/cardboard material, the OEM filters are about $12. Anyone know
    why Hyundai switched to the top-loading oil filter?

    GeoUSA, moderator http://www.HyundaiExchange.com
     
    GeoUSA, Dec 30, 2005
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  2. GeoUSA

    Matt Whiting Guest


    Getting that 0.02 quart part is going to be really tricky! :)

    I just got an 06, but I got the 4-banger which appears to still use a
    plain old spin-on filter. Looks like it is accessible from below
    through a round hole in the splash guard under the engine. I haven't
    crawled under it yet to see if my hand will actually fit through that
    hole with a filter in my hand. Probably a filter will fit through the
    hole and my hand will fit through the hole, but I wouldn't be surprised
    if my hand with a filter in it will not fit through the hole! :)

    At first blush, it sounded like this top 'o the engine filter might be
    easier to reach and change, but it doesn't sound that way given the
    details you've provided here.

    I have no idea why they would have used this design. I plan also to use
    Mobil 1 and was told that filters for my engine were about $10 at the
    dealer. I believe I can get NAPA gold filters for around $8 and silver
    for around $5. I'm sure the gold are better than the OEM filters, but
    not sure about the silvers. The important thing is to avoid Fram and
    some of the other low-end filters.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Dec 30, 2005
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  3. GeoUSA

    Mike Marlow Guest

    I realize there is a lot of stuff on the net about Fram, but there are a lot
    of us out here who have used Fram for literally decades with no problems.
    Many of us have driven cars for over 200,000 miles using Fram filters. I'd
    caution about the hype that's out there.
     
    Mike Marlow, Dec 30, 2005
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  4. GeoUSA

    Matt Whiting Guest

    It isn't hype. Cut a few open and look for yourself. The difference
    between a Fram and a quality filter is very obvious, even to the
    relatively uninitiated. I used Fram for years as well, and they were a
    great filter many moons ago. They have go downhill a lot in the last 20
    years. I had an 89 Acclaim that always had lifter noise for the first
    few seconds after a cold start. I had used Fram filters since it was
    new and never made the connection. I was talking to a colleague at work
    one day and he asked what brand of filter I used. I told him and he
    said that was the problem. The Fram anti-drainback valve is crap and
    lets the filter drain if the engine sits idle for more than a couple of
    hours. Sure enough, I switched to AC filters and no more start-up
    clatter. The difference was night and day.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Dec 31, 2005
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  5. GeoUSA

    Mike Marlow Guest

    Ok - I'll give it a whirl. I'm warning you - I don't like my old habits
    messed with though. I particularly don't like having to learn something new
    at my age. Takes too damned much effort.
     
    Mike Marlow, Dec 31, 2005
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  6. GeoUSA

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I hear ya. I was a Fram man for years, until I saw a few cut open and
    compared to other filters. I now use AC filters when I can get them as
    they are moderate quality at a decent price. I'll probably use NAPA
    filters on my new Sonata as I can get them easily and they are in the
    upper end of the quality range, but not quite as good as Mobil 1
    filters, which appear to be among the very best.

    Let me know your assessment.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Dec 31, 2005
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  7. Sounds like something from the 1950's. Is Hyundai going Retro on us?
    <G>



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    Screwtape III, Dec 31, 2005
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  8. Napa, Wix and Purolator filters are all highly regarded. Purolator's
    Pure One filters are generally available for <$6.00 at auto parts
    stores. I'm using them and synthetic oil in my '04 Elantra. I used the
    lower end Purolator and the identical Pep Boys house brand filters in my
    '94 Excel for 165K miles and the engine was still running great when I
    sold it.

    I agree that Fram products are junk and AKAIK, their filters are the
    ones that prompted the oil filter TSB that Hyundai put out a few months
    ago. I won't use them.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Dec 31, 2005
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  9. GeoUSA

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I believe that NAPA filters are made by Wix.

    I asked the dealer this as they gave me a bright colored copy of this
    when I took delivery of my new Sonata. They wouldn't say it was any
    particular brand and, of course, the bulletin said the solution was to
    use only Hyundai brand filters. However, based on my past experience
    with Fram filters and their wide availability through Wal-Mart and other
    such stores, I strongly suspect that Fram was at least part of the
    genesis of this bulletin.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Dec 31, 2005
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    Bob Guest

    Here's the TSB:
    http://n2qew.dyndns.org/Hyundai Headlight Pix/05-20-002%20pdf.pdf
     
    Bob, Dec 31, 2005
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  11. If you are sold on Fram filters, consider the Tough Guard. The price may
    give you pause, but all the necessary upgrades to make this a competitive,
    useful filter are in these.

    Thomas Wenndt
     
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  12. GeoUSA

    w9cw Guest

    Purolator Pure One filters rated #1 in a recent test. I used to be a
    Fram man myself until a number of years ago. I only use either Mann
    (German) or Purolator Pure One filters now.

    Many manufacturers are reverting to the cartridge element as it's more
    environmentally friendly. The European's, especially Volvo, initiated
    this move several years ago.
     
    w9cw, Jan 4, 2006
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  13. GeoUSA

    Matt Whiting Guest

    How is it more environmentally friendly?


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 5, 2006
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  14. GeoUSA

    Bob Guest

    Two reasons:

    1. No metal can (yeah, I know, it's not much metal) to be discarded into a
    landfill.
    2. No metal can holding sometimes upwards of 3/4 of a quart of oil to be
    discarded into a landfill only to release it's contents into the
    groundwater, after the can gets rusted thru.

    Yeah, you can poke a hole into it, and drain it out, but most DIY'ers don't.
    Oil change (drain plug manglers) places poke and squish 'em.
    Another cool thing about the new filters is that you can see what goodies
    are being trapped by the filter - chunks and or particles.

    Also, at least in Hyundai's case, it's one more thing that you can only get
    from the dealer (for a while).
     
    Bob, Jan 5, 2006
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