2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem

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I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and welded.
My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want a
brand new car been sanded and re-painted.

Anybody experienced this?
What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?

Thanks for advices

Shaman
 
Shaman said:
Anybody experienced this?
What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
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You don't want the paint, yet you don't want it repainted. What is your
suggestion for a fix? They sure as hell will not be giving you a new car.

While factory paint is usually pretty good compared to the corner body shop,
there are many shops with sophisticated equipment for spraying, ovens for
drying that will out do just about any factory. Find out who is going to do
the work and check them out.
 
Edwin Pawlowski said:
You don't want the paint, yet you don't want it repainted. What is your
suggestion for a fix? They sure as hell will not be giving you a new car.

While factory paint is usually pretty good compared to the corner body
shop, there are many shops with sophisticated equipment for spraying,
ovens for drying that will out do just about any factory. Find out who is
going to do the work and check them out.
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As long as it costs me 0$, there is no big deal. I do not expect a new car,
but maybe some kind of "gift". But my basic question is "does anybody
experienced the same problems with their new Sonata V6 2006 color crystal
silver"?

Shaman
 
Shaman said:
I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and welded.
My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want a
brand new car been sanded and re-painted.

Anybody experienced this?
What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
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Why not? Getting it painted is every bit as good as the factory paint job.
I do agree that you should not be experiencing this problem on a new car,
but things do happen.
 
My 2001 V-6 sonata, just came off warranty in march, and I've experienced
paint bubbling on all 4 door handles. I had complained to them before it
went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere but
on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer on
the handles. I worked in a auto factory, and all our painters there had
agreed that there was no proper prep work done on the plastic handles. I
went to both dealers in my city and they told me to bad off warranty. So
much for there 5 year bumper to bumper warranty. That is pure bullshit. I
then proceeded to contact Hyundai Canada, and never contacted me about this
problem. I also took it to one of the best painters in town and they told me
the same thing..........bad prep work. I'm shit out of luck on this one. So
I e-mailed the big kuhuna in Korea, and no word from them either. Customer
service is not their priority I guess. Well I won't be buying another one of
their cars ever again. There has been other issues with the car that never
got resolved by them either when it was still under warranty. I had to fix
it myself and out of my own pocket. Never, ever had this kind of problem
with domestics. I worked as a toy mechanic a few years back, better customer
relations, but their cars are over priced and are no better than domestics.
 
Shaman said:
I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and welded.
My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want a
brand new car been sanded and re-painted.

Anybody experienced this?
What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
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There is no choice if you want it fixed. This is very likely caused by
surface contamination that was cleaned off prior to painting. It has
prevented the paint from adhering properly. The only fix is to sand to
bare metal and repaint. Yes, I always hate to have the paint touched on
a new car also as it never looks quite the same.

Matt
 
Mike said:
Why not? Getting it painted is every bit as good as the factory paint job.
I do agree that you should not be experiencing this problem on a new car,
but things do happen.
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I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.

Matt
 
I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
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I've shot many gallons of paint Matt, today's paints do indeed match the
quality of the factory paint. Hell, almost anyone can shoot a paint that
will bubble off - that's a pretty good replication of the factory quality.
Seriously though - today's base and clear urethanes produce a paint job that
is every bit as good as what comes from the factory. Custom car shops
typically use the same paint systems as the shop down the road, unless they
are doing something unique like a restoration, and in the name of the
restoration they are using period paints.

Matching color is a matter of technique and product choice. There are
products out there by manufacturers which specialize in precise color
matches and they are very good matches. Nothing makes an absolutely perfect
match owing to variations in formulas (both at the factory and in the
aftermarket), and other factors, but the variations are quite minimal.
Blending takes care of this and results in a paint job that well matches the
factory paint.

Most of us know that the re-paint occured, and we "can see" it forever in
our minds. What we don't notice is that you can see variations in the
factory paint across the car. Those variations we accept because that's the
way the car came. The re-painted area bugs us simply because we know it's
there and we become convinced it's not the same as the rest of the car.

Then of course, there's bad paint jobs...
 
razz said:
I had complained to them before it
went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere
but
on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer on
the handles.
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Do you have any documentation that you reported this before the end of
warranty? If so, you have a very good case. I've had warranty work done
twice when something was reported, but not fixed, under the normal terms.
This was a case of the dealer not being able to find the problem until
later.
 
I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
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Matt,

It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
job.

I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
you dividends on any new car these days.
-

Bob
 
Well apparently the 5 year bumper to bumper warranty does not cover paint,
at least in Canada it doesn't. 3 years on paint defect. I did not know that,
since 5 year b to b warranty means just that to me... everything from ground
up is covered, aside of coarse brakes and the like. And this all happened
just around the 5 year mark. Don't know if it was documented by the
dealership, and anyways, I have the written statements from a body shop and
some co-workers confirming no primer on handles. Regardless of the age of
the car, paint should not bubble and flake off while it is still relatively
new. Still nothing from Hyundai. Nada. Hyundai refuses to cover their ****
up from the factory. Like I said, never again will I entertain the idea of
purchasing another vehicle from them. The dealership even knew I replace my
cars every 5 years.
 
That's my point. I know sometimes shit happens, but on a brand new car...
How come the guys at the plant have done this? And what about Quality
Control??

Shaman
 
Well, you found this normal? A brand new car, about near 30000$, with
taxes... I know sometimes shit happens, and I know it's not a 70000$ car,
but can we expect some quality in what we buy? What about the quality
control guys at this Hyundai plant? And, if I am not mistaken, this is a new
pplant, in Alabama, USA, not in Mexico where we can expect this kind of
"cheap labor problems"

Shaman
 
< Hyundai refuses to cover their ****
up from the factory. Like I said, never again will I entertain the idea of
purchasing another vehicle from them. The dealership even knew I replace my
cars every 5 years.
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The part that surprises me the most about this is that the dealership won't
do it for free for a good return customer. Or - are you saying that you buy
new cars every five years, but don't have a history with this dealer? Seems
to me that any dealer who knew you as a 5 year return customer would gladly
eat the hundred bucks necessary to cover the work.
 
Shaman said:
Well, you found this normal? A brand new car, about near 30000$, with
taxes... I know sometimes shit happens, and I know it's not a 70000$ car,
but can we expect some quality in what we buy? What about the quality
control guys at this Hyundai plant? And, if I am not mistaken, this is a
new pplant, in Alabama, USA, not in Mexico where we can expect this kind
of "cheap labor problems"

Shaman
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No, I did not say it is normal. I do expect that they would fix it. What is
funny to me is that you expect a gift of some sort. Poor quality can come
from any plant and while it should not happen, it does. Reputable companies
make good.

I bought a Hyundai (pick it up tonight) because of my problems with a Buick
that costs considerably more. I started being dissatisfied when the front
seat heater went out and it was less than 3 years, but more than 36k so they
wanted $576 to fix it. Then it was the transmission, two power windows,
cruise control switch, coupled with rotors, wheel bearing, sensors and
little stuff like that.
 
Mike Marlow said:
< Hyundai refuses to cover their ****

The part that surprises me the most about this is that the dealership won't
do it for free for a good return customer. Or - are you saying that you buy
new cars every five years, but don't have a history with this dealer? Seems
to me that any dealer who knew you as a 5 year return customer would gladly
eat the hundred bucks necessary to cover the work.
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This is my first Hyundai. The dealership owner owns other dealerships and
knows I've bought from him before. Plus a relative does allot of business
with him also. Regardless, Documented proof that their is no primer on the
handles very well indicate that this is a factory **** up. I don't care who
covers the cost, which is more than a hundred bucks, to do it properly the
door interior trim panels have to come off so that the handles and door
locks can be removed from the door to properly paint them. Its how the whole
situation was handled from Hyundai to the dealership.
 
Mike said:
I've shot many gallons of paint Matt, today's paints do indeed match the
quality of the factory paint. Hell, almost anyone can shoot a paint that
will bubble off - that's a pretty good replication of the factory quality.
Seriously though - today's base and clear urethanes produce a paint job that
is every bit as good as what comes from the factory. Custom car shops
typically use the same paint systems as the shop down the road, unless they
are doing something unique like a restoration, and in the name of the
restoration they are using period paints.
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I shot a few gallons in my younger days as well. However, and my wife
can verify this, I can walk around a car and tell you with almost 100%
accuracy if it has been repainted in whole or in part. It is hard to
say for sure why, I can just tell.

Matt
 
razz said:
Well apparently the 5 year bumper to bumper warranty does not cover paint,
at least in Canada it doesn't. 3 years on paint defect. I did not know
that,
since 5 year b to b warranty means just that to me... everything from
ground
up is covered, aside of coarse brakes and the like.
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Yes, the bumper to bumper covers most everything, but they probably figure
the paint is outside the bumpers and not covered :)
 
That's my point. I know sometimes shit happens, but on a brand new car...
How come the guys at the plant have done this? And what about Quality
Control??
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The car makers are really up against it. If weight and emissions were
no problem, the paint would doubtless be better. It's super expensive
to paint cars, even at the factory. Paint must be an expensive, low
emission type, maybe even water-based. Every little bit of paint must
be controlled and disposed of in a very expensive manner. Waste paint
disposal is probably more costly than the paint itself.

Small shops don't fall under the same restrictions. They can use more
volatile and dangerous types of paint, and their cleanup is not
monitored in most areas.
-

Bob
 
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