375 HP 4.6L Genesis email sales campaign

Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
vrooom, ......................Doc

 

Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say that
as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive anything you
want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly introduce exactly the
opposite of what MOST people want these days.

 

Yeah you're right. Scrap a project that's almost finished. I'm sure they
took your well written, smooth language letter and posted it right in
front of the marketing group.
Mean while Lexus, BMW, and Infinity are getting ready to go out of business.

Clay

 

I understand your frustration. But in Hyundai's defense, this "appeared" to
be exactly what America wanted just a couple of years ago.

I was wondering when there would be "enough" horsepower, etc. And while
indeed what one drives is nobody elses business, technological incremental
improvements through the years have been focused either towards more safety
or more power, and not towards better gas mileage. That changed literally
at the snap of a finger, and the auto makers are scrambling big time to
catch up, because few apparently saw this coming.

Indeed, just a few months ago, I picked up a "new" year old small car
(actually a Kia Spectra) that had just been sitting on the dealer's lot. I
got an incredibly good deal on it to "get it off their lot." Now just a few
short months later, they are able to command pretty close to full price for
every small car they have, they are in such demand.

But my point is that demand only materialized rather recently and made both
cars like this and huge SUV's (at least for people who don't need them for
towing, etc.) rather obsolete.

 

If I follow the logic correctly, then we should be able to steal the Genesis
and get took for the 4 cyls?

I agree, it was what America wanted awhile ago. With the fuel prices where
they are now, you can't touch a 3-4 banger. My Sonata sits in the garage and
we use the missus' Jeep for now. Hank- sound familiar???

Where's my Yugo?

--
Steve (quietly hoping to trade up to a Genesis, if the price is right!)

2008 Sonata SE- His
2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers

http://www.realtor.com/realestate/golden+valley-az-86413-1089865380

 

Yea but you know, even the V8 version is producing 27mpg... not bad eh?

Just saw it on the cover of Car & Driver.

Willy

 

Allow me to correct myself. It's 25mpg for the big 8cyl... still a notable
accomplishment for that much horsepower, and better than I get on my 6cyl
Chevy Equinox.

Willy

 

I can live with 25 mpg. I get 27 on my 08 Sonata SE!



--
Steve

2008 Sonata SE- His
2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers

http://www.realtor.com/realestate/golden+valley-az-86413-1089865380

 

Believe it or not, my 04 Impala (which is a full size car) delivers 30 MPG
almost all the time (on highway driving, which is about 90% of my
driving)... and has NEVER delivered less than 26 in all town driving.

I'm not that crazy about the car, but I keep hanging on because it's large
with a big trunk (I'm a salesmen) hasn't caused me any mechanical headaches,
and has mileage as good as anything available, especially for the size.

Willy

 

You must keep in mind the Genesis is not for everyone. It's for the
few that can afford the high $35-$45 initial price, and those who are
willing to trade off 25mpg for high level comfort and performance.
Obviously the Genesis is not for you.
-

Bob

 

Becoming a bit less subltle then that a these days wouldn't you
say?.....................Doc

 

Actually it could have easily been for me until the recent spike in gasoline
prices.

With that now appearing to be a permanent change, I'm seriously thinking
about a VW Jetta Diesel, which when driven right in great conditions can
actually produce 47 MPG and there's no batteries to worry about.

Willy

 

Or, for the same cost per mile, a 37 mpg gas powered car. That additional
buck a gallon more for diesel really sucks.

 

Diesel is only 50 cents a gallon higher in my neck of the woods, at the most
75. Even with the increase in cost, the longevity of a diesel and with many
owners reporting 50 mpg makes it second only to the Prius (based on an
article I just read at an automotive site).

Willy

 

Here in CT we get hosed on taxes. Diesel was a buck higher but is now 90¢

As for longevity, many do last much longer than gas engines, but some have
proven to be less reliable over time. I don't know about the TDI. VW does
have a lot of experience with them though. Remember the Rabbit? You could
always tell the diesel from the black soot up the back end.

I'm wondering if the Prius owners will be a happy bunch in five years as the
batteries start to fail. Or what the resale value of one at that age will
be even if otherwise in good condition.

 

I lloked it up yesterday out of curiosity. 8 year battery warranty,
$3000 to replace. I was surprised at the life until I read that they
never fully charge or discharge the cells to achieve this. Probably
why they void the warranty if you modify to plug them into the wall at
night. Google it if you are interested.

nothermark

 

That's the same thing I'm wondering about Prius owners... what WILL you do
when the batteries start to fail??? I've read something recently that
suggests eventually (and soon) a "lease" option will be available for the
batteries. The article also pointed out that even when the batteries are no
longer useful in the car, they still have over 80% of their usable life
remaining, and could be used in a variety of applications. But it didn't
say what those applications could be.

Based on everything I've read over the last few years, the VW TDI is so
clean it even exceeds California requirements... produces virtually no
smoke or soot unlike the diesels of old (including my 1984 MB 300D) and
offers quick starts and few problems in cold weather.

I plan to go check out the new 09 version at the dealer tomorrow. They're
taking orders, but won't commit to a delivery date, only saying, come drive
the one we have on the lot (which is loaded with advertisements about being
green and high mileage).

Willy

 

Did that 8 years also have a mileage limitation?

Willy

 

I do. I am lining up to get the Coupe SE when it comes out.

Hyundai makes cars that do that just for you -- called the Accent.

Besides, all cars -- even the Bugatti Veyron -- can accelerate slowly
past gas stations. Depends on the driver. Not all can perform like the
Genesis and even none like the Veyron.

Hahahah ..., and the bait has been set. Lets go with what the masses
want, eh? I am all for making more fuel efficient cars and reducing
our dependence on ME oil, but there must always be a choice because
not all of us see a car as a transportation appliance.