87 octane in tiburon gt v6

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anybody here using the 87 octane gas in their tibby? I have been using
93 only, but with the prices and the manual saying 87 will work I am
thinking about it.


2003 GT-V6
 
anybody here using the 87 octane gas in their tibby? I have been using
93 only, but with the prices and the manual saying 87 will work I am
thinking about it. 2003 GT-V6
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The Tiburon's engine is not a high-compression engine and is designed to
run on 87-octane gas. There is no reason to use 93-octane gas unless
you really like paying more money to fill the tank. I've been using
87-octane gas in my 2003 V6 Tiburon for 1.5 years; no knocks, pings, or
other signs of premature combustion.

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The Tiburon's engine is not a high-compression engine and is designed to
run on 87-octane gas. There is no reason to use 93-octane gas unless
you really like paying more money to fill the tank. I've been using
87-octane gas in my 2003 V6 Tiburon for 1.5 years; no knocks, pings, or
other signs of premature combustion.
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The compression ratio is kinda of high and any other manufacturer
would have recommended 89 instead of 87. Hyundai is getting around
the problem of knocking by keeping the engine flooded with gasoline
all of the time. My 2.7L Sonata runs an A:F around 10.5:1. I've been
thinking about retuning the fuel maps and running 89. More power and
better mileage at the cost of an extra $1.50 per fillup is fine by me.

I'll agree though, 93 octane is a waste of money.
 
If you were running 10.5:1, your check engine lamp would be on because the
oxygen sensors were reading rich all the time. The car's oxygen sensor
allows the computer to adjust fuel to minimize harmful emissions.
 
Use 87 octane. All the time. Every piece of information I have from
Hyundai is that higher octanes will actually cause the car to run WORSE.
 
I use 93. I tried 87, no knocks, but definitely calculated less gas mileage
and less peppiness.
 
Practically everything I've heard indicates that Hyundai engines run
really rich. hyundaitech, is what Jason said true, and the high fuel
content is there only to reduce knocking, or are there other reasons for
it?
If you were running 10.5:1, your check engine lamp would be on because
the oxygen sensors were reading rich all the time.
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Maybe there's a flaw in how Jason measured the ratio, or he made a typo,
or something. Jason, how'd you get the 10.5:1 numbers?
 
I use 93. I tried 87, no knocks, but definitely calculated less gas
mileage and less peppiness.
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I ask you again: Got hard numbers for this claimed increase in
"peppiness"? The first time you made this claim, on March 31, 2004, I
asked you for hard data in Message-ID
[email protected]202.dyndns.org .
You never responded. It's not difficult; fill the tank with 87-octane,
measure 5 or 6 0-60 or 1/4-mile times, record. Repeat with 93-octane.
If there's a stastically significant difference in the times, one grade
of gas is better than the other for acceleration. If there's *not* a
statistically significant difference, you're talking rubbish and/or
experiencing the placebo effect.

Measurement accuracy and precision are vital here, since the differences
are going to be miniscule. I have plenty of time slips from the times
I've been to the dragstrip. Next time I go, I'll put 93-octane gas in
the tank, see what the time slips say, and post the results to this
newsgroup. I don't think there'll be a statistically significant
difference, but I'm willing to conduct the experiment and have my data
publically reviewed. Are you willing to do the same? The more data
points, the better, after all....
 
It's fine if you don't believe me. If you don't know what a spongy gas
petal feels like, you won't know the difference. I lost 2 miles per gallon
with 87 octane.
 
hyundaitech said:
Use 87 octane. All the time. Every piece of information I have from
Hyundai is that higher octanes will actually cause the car to run WORSE.
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How could that be? I can understand that using fuel with higher than
necessary octane provides no benefit and is a waste of money, but how
could it make an engine run worse?
 
Sorry about the lack of context in some of my posts. I don't have the
ability (that I know of) to cut and paste previous posts into mine.
 
It doesn't burn as fast. If the engine's compression is low enough it can
have issues with properly igniting the fuel. If you have a little bit of
carbon on the valves (an older car), it gets held as a liquid in the
carbon, and plays having with the cold operation logic worse than 87.
About 10 years ago, Hyundai had a cold start problems with Elantras,
carboned valves, bad hesitation for a minute or so. If the customer was
running premium, it REALLY got bad.
 
I'd be interested in seeing your comparison. Despite oil company claims,
everything of repute I've heard indicates there's no performance
difference with 93 vs. 87 if the engine was designed to run on 87.
 
Sorry about the lack of context in some of my posts. I don't have the
ability (that I know of) to cut and paste previous posts into mine.
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It's your Usenet client's fault. Nobody (not even Google) has managed
to make a web-based Usenet frontend that doesn't suck. So, for a better
Usenet-reading and posting experience, get a good client. There are
many good clients on Unix-like systems; slrn, pine, tin, and emacs run
on the command-line while Pan, KNode, and Mozilla work in a GUI. If
you're stuck on Windoze, Forte Free Agent is probably the best
free-as-in-beer client though you can use Mozilla as well. Good clients
include "killfile" functions that allow you to filter out any messages
posted by trolls/idiots. These functions are a must for reading many
groups--not necessarily this one, since it's pretty low-traffic and
there are fewer idiots here than on Usenet in general.

Most ISPs have their own newsswervers, and the name of the server is
usually "news.$ISP", so you'd use "news.comcast.net" if your ISP is
Comcast. ISP newsswervers are usually not well-maintained and
propagation can be iffy. news.individual.net is a free newsswerver
that allows posting and is fairly well-maintained. It only carries text
newsgroups like this one, so you'll have to get your
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.redheads fix elsewhere :-) . Get an
account by going to http://news.individual.net/ and signing up. HTH,
 
hyundaitech said:
It doesn't burn as fast. If the engine's compression is low enough it can
have issues with properly igniting the fuel. If you have a little bit of
carbon on the valves (an older car), it gets held as a liquid in the
carbon, and plays having with the cold operation logic worse than 87.
About 10 years ago, Hyundai had a cold start problems with Elantras,
carboned valves, bad hesitation for a minute or so. If the customer was
running premium, it REALLY got bad.
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Very interesting; thanks for the explanation. I'm too cheap to run
higher octane fuel than necessary, so I guess I'm safe. ;-)
 
hyundaitech said:
I'd be interested in seeing your comparison. Despite oil company claims,
everything of repute I've heard indicates there's no performance
difference with 93 vs. 87 if the engine was designed to run on 87.
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Unless he's got a problem with pre-ignition and the ECU is retarding the
timing to compensate, I can't see how one could possibly get better
performance or mileage with premium fuel. I'd suspect this is a case of
the "placebo effect". If he actually IS getting better performance, it
would indicate a problem with the engine or engine management system.
 
Dances With Crows said:
I ask you again: Got hard numbers for this claimed increase in
"peppiness"? The first time you made this claim, on March 31, 2004, I
asked you for hard data in Message-ID
[email protected]202.dyndns.org .
You never responded. It's not difficult; fill the tank with 87-octane,
measure 5 or 6 0-60 or 1/4-mile times, record. Repeat with 93-octane.
If there's a stastically significant difference in the times, one grade
of gas is better than the other for acceleration. If there's *not* a
statistically significant difference, you're talking rubbish and/or
experiencing the placebo effect.

Measurement accuracy and precision are vital here, since the differences
are going to be miniscule. I have plenty of time slips from the times
I've been to the dragstrip. Next time I go, I'll put 93-octane gas in
the tank, see what the time slips say, and post the results to this
newsgroup. I don't think there'll be a statistically significant
difference, but I'm willing to conduct the experiment and have my data
publically reviewed. Are you willing to do the same? The more data
points, the better, after all....
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You never posted your results.....
Left me in a 15 year cliffhanger.
 
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