Airbag light

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by news.knology.net, May 22, 2008.

  1. 2005 XG350L Airbag light came on 6 months ago dealer clean some plug and ok.
    Now its on again and I about due to take it in for oil change. Running
    Google lots of complaints with is problem and no much in permanent fixes.
    Any words of wisdom out there??
     
    news.knology.net, May 22, 2008
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    hyundaitech Guest

    I have no certain answers, but it's my theory that the terminals in th
    side air bag connector get a small amount of oxidation on them, increasin
    the resistance of the circuit enough to turn on the lamp.

    Because the air bag is such a critical item, very small changes i
    resistance (1 Ohm or so) can be enough to set the lamp. I've had goo
    luck with retensioning the terminals so that there's more positiv
    contact. Few vehicles come back after I've done this
     
    hyundaitech, May 22, 2008
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  3. Hyundai has a history of such problems. I had a 2001 Elantra that would
    show the airbag light very often, starting at 2000 miles. Had it at the
    dealer for the problem 7 times in two years. Not long after the last
    visit the car was hit from behind while stopped waiting for traffic, the
    offender was estimated to be going 70+ mph. The car was driven forward
    into another car and demolished the front end as well. My daughter was
    injured. Not one airbag deployed. Some research on the net leads me to
    believe it is not an uncommon event. Please be sure to wear your
    seatbelt too and never assume the airbags will save you.
     
    Steve and Janet, May 23, 2008
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    Bob Guest

    And, it may well be that the Airbag system operated as designed. It operates
    based on rapid deceleration while the vehicle is moving forward. Probably,
    there wasn't much in the way of forward motion to decelerate from.
     
    Bob, May 23, 2008
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  5. The car traveled 31 feet forward before striking another stopped car. If
    this is normal operation, then a design change is needed. My daughter
    had some neck injuries, but her more serious injuries resulted from the
    front end impact, even though she was wearing a seatbelt.
     
    Steve and Janet, May 23, 2008
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    hyundaitech Guest

    Ultimately, there's not enough information here for any of us to determin
    whether the air bags operated normally. In most cases, no problem i
    found when the air bag lamp isn't on.

    Since no air bags deployed, it would be simple for a repair facility t
    check whether there were any faults even after the collision. Since n
    air bags deployed, we can probably presume that no trouble codes were se
    from air bag deployment, leaving only those codes that would indicat
    problems with the system, which likely were present even prior to th
    collision.

    In your specific case, the distance the car was pushed and the speed o
    the car that struck it from the rear are irrelevant. Presuming th
    implication that a front air bag should have deployed, the relevant facto
    the rate of deceleration at the time of frontal impact.

    Additionally, the problem I was referring to above (and presumably th
    original poster's problem as well) has to do specifically with connector
    for the side air bags. Since you're alleging a problem with the fronta
    air bags, neither problem has anything to do with the other.

    The one thing about your post that's absolutely true is that seat belt
    need to be worn. Occupant restraints are designed to be most effectiv
    when all are active/used
     
    hyundaitech, May 23, 2008
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  7. What would be your conclusion about the operation of the airbags as you
    stood and looked at the front of the car, to see the radiator torn apart
    and pushed into the engine. It looked as though another vehicle had
    struck it from the front. Would you think that was a significant
    decelleration? What if the injuries included those which could only have
    been caused by decelleration? Should a deceleration strong enough to
    fracture bones cause the airbags to deploy? What if the car had been to
    the dealer repeatedly with the airbag light on. What would you think?
    The technical details do not always tell the whole story, if that were
    so, the car would have only required one visit to the dealer for this
    problem. I understand the minute details here, and I certainly respect
    your opinion, and the opinion of others, but as a Dad, it is hard to
    take the fact that I paid for a car with airbags and they didn't work,
    which caused injuries that didn't have to be. Sometimes we buy cars that
    are mechanical nightmares and the problems remain elusive, and this was
    one of them. I am not anti Hyundai, I have a 2003 Accent and plan to buy
    another Hyundai in the near future. My only point was to not depend on
    airbags to save you, as they sometimes fail, as evidenced my many
    reports, including this one. Best regards.
     
    Steve and Janet, May 24, 2008
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  8. So you are that kind of people that expects that everything is perfect,
    IT's NOT your fault, and somebody has to pay for it.....
    Well, this is REAL LIFE .... SH*T* happens ....

    Look at yourself .... are you perfect ????????????? clearly NOT.........

    People like you are the ones making this Country be the worse one on the
    planet, when it use to be the BEST one ever.
     
    Vic Hyu Garcia, May 24, 2008
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  9. I don't expect everything to be perfect at all, and I don't expect
    anyone to pay for this. There certainly will not be any effort to make
    anyone pay for this in any way. In my mind, the airbags may well have
    not deployed because the front impact was not severe enough to trigger
    them, as has been also stated by others here.

    My only point was to urge people to wear their seatbelts and not depend
    on airbags totally, as Hyundai recommends, and to realize that not
    everything is perfect, including airbags. If I came off as being an
    elite snob and trying to make Hyundai pay for something that was not
    their fault, I apologize. Being a combat veteran, I clearly know that
    s*** happens, and I certainly do not think this country is becoming the
    worse one on the planet, far from it.

    I believe Hyundai is a great company, that is why I have purchased two
    of them and will buy another soon. My other Hyundai has had no problems
    and has performed flawlessly, the best car I ever owned. I continue to
    recommend Hyundai to anyone who asks. And I not will be leary of the new
    car's airbag system. The incident may well have just been a fluke.

    No one will be expected to pay in any way for this. The insurance
    company of the vehicle that hit the car has already payed for the
    damaged, and our insurance has paid the medical bills. That is the way
    things are supposed to work. There will be no further action on this.
    This clearly was not my fault though, the fault rests with the person
    who was clearly not paying attention and hit the car, let's not forget
    that.

    I am actually grateful that the Elantra held up so well from the impact,
    it could have been so much worse. The car was hit from behind at a high
    rate of speed, yet it did not catch fire, and the driver's area was
    intact. I thank God, and Hyundai for that. Please folks, wear your
    seatbelts, there are too many deaths from car accidents where people do
    not wear them, thinking airbags are sufficient protection. Best regards.
     
    Steve and Janet, May 24, 2008
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    One can't be sure without seeing the crash or at least the vehicles
    involved, but this doesn't surprise me. Air bags are intended for
    fairly severe frontal collisions. It takes an impact of up to 14 MPH
    into a SOLID barrier to trigger the impact sensors. If your car
    traveled 31 feet before hitting the car in front, there is a good chance
    that it was going less than 14 MPH at impact AND given that you hit
    another car, which isn't a solid, fixed barrier and itself will move
    when hit, it could take an impact speed of up to 28 MPH to trigger the
    airbags in that scenario.

    Remember that two cars colliding head-on simulate one car colliding into
    a fixed barrier (assuming the cars are equal weight). If each car is
    traveling 14 MPH, then the closure rate between the two cars is 28 MPH.
    If one car is not moving, then the other car has to be traveling at 28
    MPH to have the same impact is if both cars were coming at each other at
    14 MPH.

    I'm not saying that your airbags were working correctly and maybe they
    weren't, but one can't be sure from your description of the accident
    alone. The really extreme impact in your case was at the rear of your
    car and there are no air bag sensors there.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, May 24, 2008
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  11. I agree with you, thanks for the comment. Opened my eyes and makes good
    sense. You can't plan for all events possible in this world, just wish
    we could! LOL Thanks again and best regards.
     
    Steve and Janet, May 24, 2008
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  12. I apologize if I went too strong, now I see, from your response, that
    you are NOT that kind of person, I should had read all the post before
    jumping unto your last one, I took that out of context, my fault.

    What I agree with you 100% is your statement about seatbelts, yes they
    work, my son and his future best man are alive thanks to those, their
    car did not had airbags, hit on the side by a Volvo, dragged 27 ft over
    the curb into a pole .... only thing recoverable from his car was one
    (1) wheel, total loss ..... but both were walking within 5 days.

    Yes the seatbelts DO work.
     
    Vic Hyu Garcia, May 25, 2008
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  13. Thanks to all that replied, didn't mean to start a P ing contest.
    Got my first seat belts in the early 50's when the PX at NAS Corpus Christi
    was giving them to anybody that would install them, only lap belts then.
    Have always used and insisted that others riding in or driveing my car use.
    If you ever swapped directions on an icy road you know the value of a belt
    keeping you behind the wheel. Bought this beast Dec. 7th 05, have 10,000
    miles on it. Will be taking it in next week for semiannual oil change,
    seatbelt light and whatever. Then the following month to Firestone for tire
    roate and alignment
     
    news.knology.net, May 28, 2008
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  14. Why don't you have both done at the same place? Surely it is not the most
    economical way of doing things, even if Firetstone does free rotations.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, May 29, 2008
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  15. Local Hyundai dealer don't do alignment. When I bought the car I didn't like
    the alignment. Dealer sent me to Firestone. Bought as lifetime alignment
    package from them so I let them roatate & balance.
     
    news.knology.net, Jun 1, 2008
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