are kia dealers authorized to do hyundai warranty work?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Robert Cohen, Jan 5, 2004.

  1. Robert Cohen

    Robert Cohen Guest

    probably not, but are some of them authorized to work on hyundais by the
    hyundai company?
     
    Robert Cohen, Jan 5, 2004
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  2. Robert Cohen

    Jason Guest

    I don't see why not. Kia is a Hyundai company and their cars are
    almost identical to Hyundai vehicles.
     
    Jason, Jan 5, 2004
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  3. Robert Cohen

    Robert Cohen Guest

    Subject: Re: are kia dealers authorized to do hyundai warranty work?
    hmmmmm

    well, caddy, buick, olds, chevy, pontiac are the same family

    dodge, chrysler, plymouth are same family

    but not mercedes and dodge (which are, of course, chryler-damlier (spelling?)

    and, so, i hope hyundais and kias are more like buicks and oldses

    would somebody that knows for sure pleasae let me know if kia dealers do
    hyundai warranty repairs and maintenance services ?

    THANKS
     
    Robert Cohen, Jan 5, 2004
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  4. Robert Cohen

    theta00k Guest

    First of all, no repair facility needs any authorization from any car
    manuafcturer to work on any vehicle. There's nothing stopping them to work on
    your car and charge you for the work done on your car if you ask them to do
    it.. If you're asking about the Hyundai warranty in the U.S., No Kia dealer
    will get reimbursed on any work done on a Hyundai from HMA or the factory.
     
    theta00k, Jan 5, 2004
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  5. Robert Cohen

    Leon. Guest

    Well apart from turf wars (A Hyundai dealer would prefer to keep its service
    staff earning income, as it has to have a service centre for hyundai cars or
    else it cant be a dealer !) the KIA service centre would have to have all
    the tools, books , materials and training for dealing with Hyundai
    vehicles...Similar but not the same...Ownership probably isnt 100% owned by
    Hyundai Motor Vehicles. KIA Motor Vehicles USA or KIA Australia might not
    be 100% owned by KIA korea... you get the idea.
     
    Leon., Jan 5, 2004
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  6. Robert Cohen

    windmere Guest

    Jason please.......nooooo...... have you read the Kia newsgroup? My isp
    doesn't get it but I read the archives through google. These cars are not up
    to the quality of Hyundai yet.....not even the much-maligned Hyundai of the
    80's!
    If they really are "almost identical to Hyundais" that is a scary thing.
     
    windmere, Jan 6, 2004
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  7. Robert Cohen

    Jason Guest

    No, I don't read the Kia groups. Still, Kia vehicles are basically
    identical to Hyundai vehicles. There are a few body panels that are
    different but the parts under the hood are identical.
     
    Jason, Jan 6, 2004
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  8. Robert Cohen

    Xiaoding Guest


    That has got to be complete BS.
     
    Xiaoding, Jan 6, 2004
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  9. Robert Cohen

    Leon. Guest

    Something like computers ?

    Consider a dell laptop and a toshiba laptop

    both might use

    The same cpu
    The same chipset - including IO, battery controller, display controller, the
    same ram, battery, dvd drive, ram,etc.
    But you still wouldn't expect to get Toshiba warranty at Dell or vica versa.

    That wouldnt change if one owned (even just a majority of) the other.


    Hp own Compaq and hence Digital brandnames. Digital has gone, but the Compaq
    brand name remains. Thats up to HP.


    Of course, with computers the call centre and service centre for such
    conjoined brands is likely to be the same place.

    But with cars, the brand names are often in different car yards.
     
    Leon., Jan 6, 2004
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  10. Robert Cohen

    Leon. Guest


    But you could call the up the local KIA service centre and ask them.
    They might be Hyundai warranty repairers still...
    There are a number of reasons they don't do Hyundai sales but could still
    be a Hyundai warranty repairer....
     
    Leon., Jan 6, 2004
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  11. Robert Cohen

    Leon. Guest

    Of course it is. Smaller Kia enginers are Mazda, larger ones are Mitsu,
    and now Kia are making Kia..

    But even if the kia's were badge engineered Hyundai, it doesnt make sense to
    assume you should be able to get warranty work for one at the others
    warranty service centre.

    The reason you would get brand X warranty done at a brand Y dealership
    service centre is because the service centre also had contracts to do work
    for brand X dealerships, or other supply of work (like 2nd hand car
    dealers).
     
    Leon., Jan 7, 2004
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  12. Robert Cohen

    Jason Guest

    No, it's not.

    Rio=Accent
    - Both use the same 1.6L I4 "Alpha" engine.

    Spectra=Elantra
    - Both use the same 2.0L I4 "Beta II" engine.

    Optima=Sonata
    - Both use the same 2.4L I4 "Sirius II" and 2.7L V6 "Delta" engine.

    Amanti=XG350
    - Both use the same 3.5L V6 "Sigma" engine.

    In addition to the shared engines, why don't you try taking a look
    under your hood. I've dug around under mine (and pulled half of the
    components out. Most of my belts are labeled with the "Kia" logo,
    half a dozen other parts are also labeled as "Hyundai/Kia".

    The vehicle pairs come with basically the same features and offer the
    same options.
     
    Jason, Jan 7, 2004
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  13. Robert Cohen

    theta00k Guest

    No, they don't.
    Spectra doesn't have Beta engine.
    What kind of car do you have?
     
    theta00k, Jan 7, 2004
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  14. Robert Cohen

    kcw Guest

    Why BS? After all they are the same company.

     
    kcw, Jan 8, 2004
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  15. Robert Cohen

    Jason Guest

    The engine used in the Getz, Matrix, Accent, and Rio are all "Alpha"
    engines. The Accent and Matrix are 1599 cc where as the Getz and Rio
    are only 1594 cc. The 5 cc difference is made up from the slight
    difference in the piston crown.
    I'm not sure on this one. The displacement is a couple cc different
    but that can easily be made up with different pistons as with the
    Alpha. I'll look into it.
    A 2003 Sonata LX and a 2002 XG350L (a replacement for the 2001 XG300).
     
    Jason, Jan 8, 2004
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  16. Robert Cohen

    theta00k Guest

    As I said, the Rio engine is not the Alpha engine. It's Kia's own, developed
    in the late 90's. Have you ever actually LOOKED under the hood of Rio??

    Also piston "crown" has no bearing on engine displacement calculation.
    Displacement=Pi*(square of the cylinder diameter)*(piston stroke)
     
    theta00k, Jan 9, 2004
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