Battery for 2000 Sonata

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by Richard Steinfeld, Mar 5, 2005.

  1. I have a 2000 Sonata 6 cyl.
    I'd like to know what size battery it uses.

    I was in Costco today and looked through their battery
    application book. To my surprise, I found none of their batteries
    listed for my Sonata. Their batteries are made by Johnson
    Controls. They showed battteries for almost no Hyundai models.
    What's the story?

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Mar 5, 2005
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  2. It should be a pretty simple matter to measure your existing battery,
    note the post type and locations, then find one with the same or higher
    CCA rating.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Mar 5, 2005
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  3. Richard Steinfeld

    hyundaitech Guest

    I think it's a group 24R, but I'm not certain.
     
    hyundaitech, Mar 7, 2005
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  4. | I think it's a group 24R, but I'm not certain.
    |

    I checked the battery that came with the used car. It's a Group
    35, held down at the bottom, rated at 640 CCA. It's obviously a
    replacement battery, that is, unless HMC has been buying their
    batteries at Sears in Korea.

    Would there be any problems that you can think of?

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Mar 8, 2005
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  5. As long as you buy the same type of battery with at least the same CCA
    rating, you'll be fine.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Mar 8, 2005
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  6. Richard Steinfeld

    Harry Smith Guest

    ==============
    Richard,

    Actually, it's tough to find an *exact* replacement for the '99 - '01
    Sonatas. I was told that Interstate makes the batteries for Hyundai
    now, and that's the only replacement I've found that will allow you to
    keep the plastic "shield" that slips over the battery. Every other
    brand I tried either had the terminals reversed (plus and minus on the
    wrong sides to match the cables) had additional side terminals (which
    interfere with the housing shield), or had a carrying strap that also
    keeps the shield from slipping down over the battery.

    Good luck,
    Harry Smith
     
    Harry Smith, Mar 8, 2005
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  7. | Richard Steinfeld wrote:
    | >
    | > I have a 2000 Sonata 6 cyl.
    | > I'd like to know what size battery it uses.
    | >
    | > I was in Costco today and looked through their battery
    | > application book. To my surprise, I found none of their
    batteries
    | > listed for my Sonata. Their batteries are made by Johnson
    | > Controls. They showed battteries for almost no Hyundai
    models.
    | > What's the story?
    | >
    | > Richard
    | ==============
    | Richard,
    |
    | Actually, it's tough to find an *exact* replacement for the
    '99 - '01
    | Sonatas. I was told that Interstate makes the batteries for
    Hyundai
    | now, and that's the only replacement I've found that will allow
    you to
    | keep the plastic "shield" that slips over the battery. Every
    other
    | brand I tried either had the terminals reversed (plus and minus
    on the
    | wrong sides to match the cables) had additional side terminals
    (which
    | interfere with the housing shield), or had a carrying strap
    that also
    | keeps the shield from slipping down over the battery.

    Aha!
    Yup.
    The Sears size 35 battery that came with this car has no shield.
    The cables fit properly -- they're neatly dressed -- and it
    appears to be held down nicely via ears on the battery at the
    bottom (I haven't looked closely). I don't see any side terminals
    on it; if it had them, I'd be a bit nervous about unintentional
    shorts. The battery is guaranteed for ten years (!).

    From the looks of the space provided, it appears that the
    original battery may have been longer (I should measure this
    thing). Now, I'm guessing about this: it's likely that Hyundai
    did not provide a premium battery in the first place. Therefore,
    I'm guessing that by using a premium battery as a replacement,
    the prior owner achieved the same or even better energy delivery
    in a smaller container, so this is one way to solve the problem
    neatly (I've had it with non-standard batteries!).

    Make sense?

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Mar 9, 2005
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  8. Read the fine print. It's a pro-rated warranty. When the time comes that
    you have to replace it, it's not worth much.
    Case designs vary and it's not unusual for the overall size of
    comparable batteries to be a bit different. As long as it fits and it's
    secure, you're good.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Mar 10, 2005
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  9. | Richard Steinfeld wrote:
    | > | > | Richard Steinfeld wrote:
    | > Aha!
    | > Yup.
    | > The Sears size 35 battery that came with this car has no
    shield.
    | > The cables fit properly -- they're neatly dressed -- and it
    | > appears to be held down nicely via ears on the battery at the
    | > bottom (I haven't looked closely). I don't see any side
    terminals
    | > on it; if it had them, I'd be a bit nervous about
    unintentional
    | > shorts. The battery is guaranteed for ten years (!).
    |

    | Read the fine print. It's a pro-rated warranty. When the time
    comes that
    | you have to replace it, it's not worth much.
    |

    Oh, I know that. But I bank on the fact that the battery will
    work pretty well (especially in my mild climate) to get close to
    its warranty end. The logic is pretty similar to Hyundai's: a
    manufacturer hates to shell out to handle a warranty claim. I
    learned with stereo equipment to search out products that offer
    an exceptional warranty. Nowadays, that means a reasonable period
    for _labor._ Back to the topic at hand, if a battery is warranted
    for ten years, I figure that it will serve me well for nine.

    | > From the looks of the space provided, it appears that the
    | > original battery may have been longer (I should measure this
    | > thing). Now, I'm guessing about this: it's likely that
    Hyundai
    | > did not provide a premium battery in the first place.
    Therefore,
    | > I'm guessing that by using a premium battery as a
    replacement,
    | > the prior owner achieved the same or even better energy
    delivery
    | > in a smaller container, so this is one way to solve the
    problem
    | > neatly (I've had it with non-standard batteries!).
    | >
    | > Make sense?
    |
    | Case designs vary and it's not unusual for the overall size of
    | comparable batteries to be a bit different. As long as it fits
    and it's
    | secure, you're good.

    Thanks for your input. It appears that a standard Size 35 battery
    is a great replacement for a '00 Sonata's original battery.
    That is, if there's some safety issue that I can't fathom. We
    also lose whatever that cover is (my used car came without it).
    In my old, old 2-stroke SAAB, the battery was next to the
    fusebox; acid fumes from the battery constantly corroded the
    European VW-tpe fuses (your lights would go out at night).
    Changing to American chrome-plated fuses provided a nifty fix.
    For the tail light bulbs in the next SAAB, genuine Philips brand
    bulbs were essential. Moral: there's fine points to these subs.

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Mar 11, 2005
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  10. Not likely. It's pretty rare for a battery for last five years, let
    alone double that. The warranty is largely a marketing ploy. Sears knows
    that the battery will never last that long and they build the pro-rated
    warranty cost into the price. That's one reason why they cost more.
    They're also betting that you won't keep your car that long and the next
    owner will not attempt to use the warranty. While it certainly may be a
    better battery than their less expensive models, it may just be the same
    thing with a longer warranty and a higher price tag.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Mar 11, 2005
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  11. | >
    | > | Read the fine print. It's a pro-rated warranty. When the
    time
    | > comes that
    | > | you have to replace it, it's not worth much.
    | > |
    | >
    | > Oh, I know that. But I bank on the fact that the battery will
    | > work pretty well (especially in my mild climate) to get close
    to
    | > its warranty end. The logic is pretty similar to Hyundai's: a
    | > manufacturer hates to shell out to handle a warranty claim. I
    | > learned with stereo equipment to search out products that
    offer
    | > an exceptional warranty. Nowadays, that means a reasonable
    period
    | > for _labor._ Back to the topic at hand, if a battery is
    warranted
    | > for ten years, I figure that it will serve me well for nine.
    |
    | Not likely. It's pretty rare for a battery for last five years,
    let
    | alone double that. The warranty is largely a marketing ploy.
    Sears knows
    | that the battery will never last that long and they build the
    pro-rated
    | warranty cost into the price. That's one reason why they cost
    more.
    | They're also betting that you won't keep your car that long and
    the next
    | owner will not attempt to use the warranty. While it certainly
    may be a
    | better battery than their less expensive models, it may just be
    the same
    | thing with a longer warranty and a higher price tag.

    The Johnson Controls battery in my recently-departed Ford
    Aerostar has an 8-year warranty, and was still working perfectly
    for me in its 7th year. I bought it at Costco. I'll add that I
    live in a mild climate area where batteries are lightly loaded.
    If I lived in an area where it snows and battery current delivery
    squnches down to 30% in the winter, I might agree with you.

    However, consider this point: Costco is the type of outfit that
    does not take manufacturer slight-of-hand like this lightly. I
    assure you that they do not want to have to handle a lot of
    disgusting, leaking, dangerous batteries brought in by customers
    if it's avoidable. They can ride herd on a supplier, even one as
    large and arrogant as Johnson Controls. In other words, if
    they're putting Johnson's warranty on a battery (labeled with a
    Costco brand), they're going to be yelling on Johnson's horn
    pretty loudly if those batteries don't come through. Johnson
    should understand this, since I have already read a pamphlet sent
    out to their suppliers by Johnson, that said, in essence, "You
    will make parts for us for 30% lower price and you will make them
    with no reduction in quality." ("You Will Do What We Tell You And
    You Will Like It!")

    Too bad that my Aerostar was totalled beause it would have been
    interesting to see if the battery had fulfilled the entire
    warranty. On the other hand, the insurance money helped put me
    into this Sonata ("Money talks, nobody walks!").

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Mar 11, 2005
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