"Black Boxes" in Hyundai's..???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Moshe Jacobson, Nov 5, 2004.

  1. As far as I understand, it's been a requirement of all recent cars (at
    least the last few years). Supposedly, the "black box" doesn't record
    too much -- only the last few seconds of data, such as how fast you
    were going, what pedals you were pressing at the time of impact, stuff
    like that.

    Moshe Jacobson, Nov 5, 2004
  2. Moshe Jacobson

    CincyPSU Guest

    There was a lot of talk in the news today about many of the new car lines
    coming equipped with the "black box" recorder right out of the factory.

    Does anyone know if Hyundai uses these devices? Not sure how I feel about
    about having one in my car ('04 Sonata) but at the very least it would be good
    to know whether or not one is present.

    CincyPSU, Nov 5, 2004
  3. Moshe Jacobson

    S25 Guest

    We know what you did last summer!!

    M I B
    S25, Nov 5, 2004
  4. Moshe Jacobson

    hyundaitech Guest

    I know of no cars that have black boxes per se, but all modern vehicles
    have computers with diagnostic capabilities which require them to retain
    diagnostic information such as what type of irregularity the computer saw.
    By law, engine computers in all vehicles 1996 and newer are required to
    save certain diagnostic data anytime an engine diagnostic code is set (and
    the check engine lamp illuminated). Among other things, this data includes
    coolant temperature, load, vehicle speed, and some other things intended to
    give technicians better success at diagnosing intermittent problems seen by
    the computer. Many manufacturers supplement this information with more
    information they feel will be helpful to the technician in diagnosing the
    vehicle. If you bring your vehicle to me and the check engine lamp came
    on while you were driving 105 MPH, I would be able to find that out and
    might ask you why you were driving so fast, but in reality, this
    information is not important to technicians unless it helps them determine
    what was going wrong.

    Every manufacturer I know of records a significant amount of data in the
    computer during an air bag deployment. This is to help them protect
    themselves from lawsuits. And, it's entirely possible that the computers
    are storing things I can't access but that the factory can. They don't
    need to make everything accessible to the technician.
    hyundaitech, Nov 5, 2004
  5. There are currently pilots going on where Insurance companies will give you
    a discount. In return you have a black box installed that records your
    driving habits..... Their goal is to provide lower rates to those who
    conform to their standards of safe driving, and probably surcharge those who
    do not. There were a few articles abou this in the news or somewhere


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    Michael Abbaticchio, Nov 6, 2004
  6. Moshe Jacobson

    Mad E Moe Guest

    If it is the same as in a Hinda the black box is located in the
    sterring wheel under the airbag , you can simply disable it by
    unplugging the air bag system (Not recommended since it disablse ALL
    the air bags in the car and your stuck with this annoying AIrbag error
    lamp) Note Insurance companies WILL use the info in the box when the
    investigate a serious accident. Import Tuner mag had a mod that
    allowed you to zero out the info in the black box continously but I
    forgot what issue it was .
    Mad E Moe, Nov 26, 2004
  7. Moshe Jacobson

    theta00k Guest

    Actually the "black" box the press is talking about is the Delphi SDM(airbag
    ECU), mostly in GM and Ford vehicles. There's no separate "box" for storing
    collision data.
    Whether the same set of data is recorded in Hyundai or other automakers'
    airbag computer or not; we just don't know. It's proprietary info.
    theta00k, Dec 8, 2004
  8. Moshe Jacobson

    Slim Guest

    Don't drive like an asshole and you will be fine.

    Go 50 in a 35 zone and T-Bone another car?

    Tough shit.
    Slim, Sep 4, 2008
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