Dealer Oil Change

I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil
change would have been $39.79 They also wanted to charge an
additional $25 for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of
belts, brakes, lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have
any of you had a similair experience with this type of pricing?

 

wrote in 4ax.com:

I bought a used 2005 Sonata GLS VE in Ithaca, NY in December 2005.

FWIW, for the first oil change, I called around for prices (as it had been
while since I had a car).

The dealer charged $22.95 for oil changes with every sixth one free. This
was the lowest price I could find.

Sinan

 

I took my 06 Sonata LX to my dealership which had signs posted everywhere
saying "oil change $21.95" When I went to pay the bill was almost $40. After
raising hell I still paid almost $40. Their reason was ....It is a 6 cyl.!
and the filter cartridge is more expensive than a regular oil filter. They
said signs were for 4 cyl. cars even though it was not on the signs. One
more time..."Because it is a 6 cyl." what a bunch of crooks.

Rob

 

I also had a free oil change coupon book, which they gave me $18 credit for.
They did the 'required' 7500 mile service, which included rotating/balancing
tires and adjusting the rear brakes (???). With 'shop supplies' and 'oil
and grease' charges, it cost me about $75 for my free oil change. Not
happy.

 

Its 39.95 at my dealer....the local 10 minute lube joint in town (19.95 most
cars) doesn't yet stock the cannister filter element the v-6 takes. I
believe the sonata v-6 also takes 7 qts. of oil.

 

Be careful about the oil filter. There's a tech service bulletin about the
'off brand' filters causing lifter noise because they don't have an internal
pressure relief valve and starve the hydraulic lifters. The service manager
said that a customer came in complaining of valve clatter and when they put
it on the lift, it had an after market filter. They voided his warrantee!
Put on a Hyundai filter and the clatter disappeared. Hard to believe.

Hyundai is very serious about doing what they recommend to protect the
warrantee. Same with Kia.

Tom

 

They charged for 6 quarts and I checked the dipstick afterwards and it
was at the full mark.

 

Just had our Sonata 06 6cyl done as well. We also thought that the oil
change would be as advertised. However a close check on the fine print
on the sales circular Hyundai sent out explains the gouging as
something along the lines of "depending on how your vehicle is
equipped"or something similar.........Doc

 

The 2006 Sonata V6 uses 6 quarts of oil and a new (more expensive)
canister-type oil filter, this is what makes that service more
expensive than the old models. Given the additional cost of the
materials, it is not reasonable to expect the dealer to do oil changes
at the same price as the earlier models. (By the way, the "new" style
oil filter is actually a throwback, I had a '64 Corvair with a canister
filter and it was certainly not the earliest vehicle to be so equipped.
Everything old is new again!)

I would not take a car to a "Jiffy Lube" type place in order to save
money on oil changes, I've seen too many horror stories come out of
those joints. (For example, some years ago a friend of mine took a new
Subaru to her local Jiffy Lube for an oil change, where they proceeded
to drain the automatic transmission fluid and blindly throw 4
additional quarts of oil into the engine. Needless to say, she did not
get very far down the road and had to sue them for the damage.) A
better choice would be to either take your car to the dealer, to a
knowledgeable and trustworthy independent mechanic, or do it yourself.

In my case, our dealer has an excellent service department and has
always been fair and treated us well when we had our 2000 Sonata, so we
take our new Sonata to them for all servicing. I would rather spend a
few extra bucks and know that the job is going to be done right, plus
they routinely check for and take care of recalls and computer updates
when the car is in.

 

Free oil change every 3500 from the dealer. Second time they wanted
to know if I rotated the tires - said no but I would take care of it,
end of coversation. Vision Hyundai, Rochester, NY.

 

There's no reason for the canister type filters to be more expensive than
spin-on filters. In fact, they should be a little cheaper than spin-on's as
the aftermarket filters come on line.

Nothing we can do about the 6 quart capacity. It makes it real expensive to
use synthetic. I guess more oil capacity improves engine cooling slightly
and perhaps makes the oil retains its lubricating properties a tad longer.

 

DOes taking your car to a non-hyundai place void the warrenty? I have been
taking my car to walmart for oil changes, and I have never had a problem
with them! I also dont remember reading anywhere that using a non-hyundai
oil filter will void the warrenty.. But it does say that use of hyundai
transmission fluid is mandatory!
I have had my 2002 accent for 4 years, and have 61k on it with out any
issued, and using Walmart oil changes and what ever filter type they use

 

You are free to use whomever you would like to do your auto repairs. But
your warranty will not cover poor workmanship on the part of the facility
nor any non-hyundai parts. Hyundai has no control over those things.

 

Somethings just come around again and again. My '54 Chevy had a canister
type oil filter. Pain in the butt to change. Had to use a turkey baster to
suck out the oil left in there. You old farts will remember them. )

 

'I took my 2006 Sonata to the dealer this morning for the first oil
change since I bought the car. Fortunately this was a freebie in that
this was included when I bought the car, but the cost for the oil change
would have been $39.79   They also wanted to charge an additional $25
for a multi-point inspection to check the condition of belts, brakes,
lights, hoses etc. which I refused to pay for. Have any of you had a
similair experience with this type of pricing? '

REPLY: Dealers have an enormous overhead and charge accordingly. If
you dont want to do the oil changes yourself which is always the best
way...then take your car to Lube Pros or Jiffy Lube. Youll save about
$10 on the oil change and theyll check belts,hoses, air filter,
etc...for nothing.

 

I always use a local repair shop that I have been using over 15 years
with the exception of the first oil change done at the dealer or if
traveling out of town and the mileage between oil changes is getting
too high. I am not familiar with Lube Pros but I have used Jiffy Lube
once and will never go back. All of their fluids come out of the same
nozzle, and in fact if your brake fluid is down they can't even top it
off because of problems they had several years ago with the brake
fluid being contaminated by mixing with other fluids. They also tried
to sell me parts that were not needed (air filter, PCV, and even wiper
blades) just to bring up the total sale.

 

I agree whole heartedly about Jiffy Lube...very user unfriendly with slimy
tactics. Its not cheap either as I recall.

I have, however, found a quick lube place here that is very good....10
minute turn around, 20 bucks, and no trying to sell unneeded stuff. They
also have had the same help for years, which make me think the work
environment is good. called "Pronto" Alas, not yet stocking the Hyundai
filter (canister)

 

The 6cyl Sonata takes 6 qts, just like the owners manual says. The only
place you can get filter for it is at the Hyundai dealer. I Paid 8.32 at
my dealer for filter. later I bought 2 more on line from Hyunday Dealer in
Spgfld Mass for 6.50 each with free shipping. I changed the oil myself
using Wallyworld synthetic which cost $16.00..here's another little gem
that is on its way: When I ordered the filters I asked about the fuel
tank air filter that is supposed to be changed in the warranty cycle.
Guess what.. you can't change it. he says you have to drop the tank to
change it. that'll be really cheap,,yeah right!!

 

'but I have used Jiffy Lube once and will never go back. All of their
fluids come out of the same nozzle, and in fact if your brake fluid is
down they can't even top it off because of problems they had several
years ago with the brake fluid being contaminated by mixing with other
fluids. They also tried to sell me parts that were not needed (air
filter, PCV, and even wiper blades) just to bring up the total sale. '

REPLY: Not all Jiffy Lubes are unethical. The one by me isnt bad at
all, and , they use a variety of nozzles for thier fluids. You wont find
many shops that WONT see if they can ring up a larger tab for you ; im
okay with that 'if' its genuinely needed for my car. Id find a local
shop before id go to a Hyundai Dealership for routine maintenance ; the
last time i went to one....there were these mechanics walking around
with these slick 'genuine Hyundai' jackets on with a real attitude. No
thanks to that !

 

No way I'm going there myself, but I had a little free time today and I
stopped by my local Jiffy Lube to check on the canister filter. I spoke
with the manager who said they had them. I asked if I could see one
because I really didn't believe him. He had 4 of them in stock purchased
from my local Hyundai dealer. He explained that they had a runner that
makes stops at the dealer for parts when they can't get them through their
normal supplier.

What is a fuel tank air filter?

Eric