E85 fuel in Hyundai's

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Buckeyered, Jun 7, 2006.

  1. Buckeyered

    Buckeyered Guest

    I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
    selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
    Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
    conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
     
    Buckeyered, Jun 7, 2006
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  2. Cars have to be built specially to handle E-85. They are typically called
    "flex-fuel" vehicles.

    More and more of these are being built all the time by more and more
    manufacturers. As I understand it, the number and availability of tax
    incentives to buy these are also growing by leaps and bounds. Hyundai and
    Kia will apparently join the "flex-fuel vehicle" rush in 2007.

    As for modifying a current vehicle, I won't say it's impossible, but so much
    would have to be modified, I doubt any kits will be made available, unless
    there are some very committed people out there.

    I would also ask people to think carefully before buying a vehicle that runs
    on E-85, unless it is a true "flex-fuel" vehicle, meaning it can also run on
    regular unleaded. For now, the availability of E-85 is limited, meaning
    unless your driving is totally local, you may have some problems finding a
    station that supplies it out of your area. As I understand it, that is
    changing rapidly also.

    Ethanol plants are being built and proposed left and right. I think you
    will find that this is a phenomenon that will become a very real part of our
    fuel future in the years to come.

    But for now, sorry but I don't think this will help your Elantra and Santa
    Fe.

    Hope this helps.

    Tom Wenndt
     
    Rev. Tom Wenndt, Jun 8, 2006
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  3. Buckeyered

    Dan K Guest

    No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
    vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
    they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
    like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
    something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
    alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
    mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
     
    Dan K, Jun 9, 2006
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  4. Buckeyered

    Paradox Guest

    its only around 10-20% loss of fuel economy, E85 doesnt have as much bang as
    regular petrol.
     
    Paradox, Jun 10, 2006
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  5. Buckeyered

    Veritas Guest

    I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
    approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
    is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
    any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
     
    Veritas, Jun 13, 2006
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  6. Buckeyered

    not mark Guest

    Not to mention the amount of oil it takes to grow and process the corn
    used to make the ethanol. The chosen claim a net 20% gain over just
    using the oil to make gasoline. That requires a level of recycling
    energy that far exceeds current practice. The real net result is much
    more likly a net loss in efficiency but a net gain in ADM's bank
    account.
     
    not mark, Jun 13, 2006
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  7. Buckeyered

    Elmer Fudd Guest

    Another item you may want to consider is that all vehicles will get less
    MPG when using E85 fuel. You would want to weigh the .40 savings
    against that.
     
    Elmer Fudd, Jun 16, 2006
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  8. Buckeyered

    Elmer Fudd Guest

    I prefer to look at it this way.

    Even though the cost of E85 would be about the same when you factor fuel
    economy loss. E85 is renewable, hence a $1 hike in one month is not as
    likely as it would be with regular petroleum. Also, if more people
    switch to E85, petroleum manufacturers would sell less forcing them to
    FINALLY reduce the prices of their EXPENSIVE gas.
     
    Elmer Fudd, Jun 16, 2006
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