Elantra timing belt question for HyundaiTech

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My daughters 2002 Elantra is coming up shortly on 60000 miles. I recall
HyundaiTech stating that a Hyundai Belt was required (to keep the warranty
good) and that he didn't recommend replacing the water pump at this time.
Is there any other component, like idler or balance shaft belt, that should
be replaced to maintain the warranty? The local dealer has quoted me $400
to replace the belt, but I forgot to ask what all that includes. Hopefully
it includes the belt. I intend to buy accessory belt(s) and ask them to use
them when they reassemble everything. I haven't looked yet, so I don't know
how many there are (1 or 2). thanks
Bill

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400$ is very expensive for just the timing belt.

Had my 2001 done at my local dealer(Montreal QC) 275$ cdn.
 
There's nothing else you'd need to change on the '02 Elantra. Your dealer
may appreciate you a little more if you ask them to install the (3)drive
belts rather than bringing aftermarkets. And don't be afraid to shop
around. The price here for this job is about $450, but as I've said
before, our prices tend to be on the high end. Just make certain that a
factory belt is used.
 
There's nothing else you'd need to change on the '02 Elantra. Your dealer
may appreciate you a little more if you ask them to install the (3)drive
belts rather than bringing aftermarkets. And don't be afraid to shop
around. The price here for this job is about $450, but as I've said
before, our prices tend to be on the high end. Just make certain that a
factory belt is used.
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Although not required, it is a good idea to replace the tensioner and
the idler pulley. A lot of people go ahead and replace the water pump,
the cam seal, the belt tensioner, the drive belts and the idler pulley
too. Mainly because the labor cost is cheaper to get it all done at
one time and some people have had failures soon after the timing belt
was done. It will be expensive to have those replaced if they fail
after the belt is done. I was quoted $745 for parts and labor (and
free rental car) at a dealer in Sacramento, CA.
 
If he's the original owner, the water pump is still covered by the 10/100
powertrain warranty. This engine doesn't have a hydraulic tensioner. In
my experience, the failure rate of the tensioner pulleys is low, but
they're not powertrain items, so if they do fail, the customer would be
responsible for all parts/labor costs.
 
Although not required, it is a good idea to replace the tensioner and
the idler pulley. A lot of people go ahead and replace the water pump,
the cam seal, the belt tensioner, the drive belts and the idler pulley
too. Mainly because the labor cost is cheaper to get it all done at
one time and some people have had failures soon after the timing belt
was done. It will be expensive to have those replaced if they fail
after the belt is done. I was quoted $745 for parts and labor (and
free rental car) at a dealer in Sacramento, CA.
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Is it really cheaper for the owner? Around here they flat rate
everything. Because that assumes the only task being done is the
listed item the dealer and mechanic make out but not the end user.
 
Is it really cheaper for the owner? Around here they flat rate
everything. Because that assumes the only task being done is the
listed item the dealer and mechanic make out but not the end user.
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I have to question that. Though I can't really argue with the statement
because I don't know where "here" is, but that would be quite unlikely
almost anyplace. I'd suggest calling the dealer and asking them precisely
what the charges would be. Any dealer would be willing to quote the work.

One often hears the "around here they do this..." kind of statement that is
most generally based on myth and a desire to bash dealer pricing and not on
actual (non-anecdotal) experience. Try negotiating with the dealer. It
does not always work but it often works. The worst they can say is "no",
but you don't know if you don't try.
 
I have to question that. Though I can't really argue with the statement
because I don't know where "here" is, but that would be quite unlikely
almost anyplace. I'd suggest calling the dealer and asking them precisely
what the charges would be. Any dealer would be willing to quote the work.

One often hears the "around here they do this..." kind of statement that is
most generally based on myth and a desire to bash dealer pricing and not on
actual (non-anecdotal) experience. Try negotiating with the dealer. It
does not always work but it often works. The worst they can say is "no",
but you don't know if you don't try.
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Western NY state. AFAIK it is common practice anywhere I have heard
of in the US. It certainly was why my son paid over $1000 for a brake
job in California and was quoted that in Phoenix, AZ. Maybe that is
changing, It would be interesting to find out.
 
nothermark said:
Western NY state. AFAIK it is common practice anywhere I have heard
of in the US. It certainly was why my son paid over $1000 for a brake
job in California and was quoted that in Phoenix, AZ. Maybe that is
changing, It would be interesting to find out.
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Well - I'm in Central NY state - the Syracuse area to be more precise. I
guess we're sorta neighbors. What I can assure you is that you stand a very
good chance of not experiencing the flat rate everything syndrome if you
simply talk to the dealer. I don't use the dealer or any other mechanic
most of the time, because I do all of my own work, but I have had work
quoted and on rare occasions even took them up on the deal. I've negotiated
prices also. Just did so a week ago. My wife had her car in for warranty
work, the dealer suggested a maintenance item that I didn't disagree with
(in terms of it being a good idea), but is something I would have normally
done myself. I offered the dealer about 60% of what they normally charge
flat rate and they immediately agreed to the price. At that point it was
only a small amount over what I would have cost me in materials to do the
job - and I didn't have to tie up a couple-few hours fooling with it!

Common practices are often - usually more common myth. Not to say that
dealers can't take a big bite, but there is so much more evidence of fair
(though on the high side) pricing. Can't speak to your son's experience.
Don't know anything about the deal. $1000 for a brake job certainly implies
more than rotors and pads.
 
If he's the original owner, the water pump is still covered by the 10/100
powertrain warranty. This engine doesn't have a hydraulic tensioner. In
my experience, the failure rate of the tensioner pulleys is low, but
they're not powertrain items, so if they do fail, the customer would be
responsible for all parts/labor costs.
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It may not have a hydraulic tensioner, but does have a tensioner. It
is shown the exploded view on hmaservice.com.
 
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