Engine Whining/Wheezing

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mamamia, Mar 14, 2007.

  1. mamamia

    mamamia Guest

    I own a 4cyl ’06 Sonata. I’ve had the car for a year now, 8,000 miles
    on the odometer. I love my Sonata!

    But since my 2nd oil change at the dealership, about 4-5 months ago,
    the car developped a Whining/wheezing sound that comes from the engine
    compartment, in general from the RIGHT side, when hearing it from the
    driver’s seat....

    It sounds like an ELECTRICAL motor, kind of a WEEEEEEE sound, and the
    sound is accurately parallel to the engine’s sound and its RPM,
    fluctuating EXACTLY as the engine-sound is fluctuating with the tranny
    shifting. It can be detected only when accelerating and especially at
    low speed... It does it also when the car is in Neutral and the engine
    revs to about 2,000-2,500.

    Unlike many other cars with whining noise (did some Google search) --
    I know my audio system (AM/FM radio or CD) is NOT affected by the
    sound.

    I heard all kinds of theories as to the origin of the sound, like the
    Power Steering pump, Alternator, intake piping and manifold, even a
    theory that it’s the Timing Chain.

    Also, I noticed that when it’s drizzly and rainy here -- the sound is
    significantly less pronounced....

    My dealer keeps claiming it’s normal, or that there is no unusual
    sound... Hyundai regional rep checked it and said all is normal...
    Maybe it’s normal, but I KNOW the sound is not detected on other cars.

    Anyone here has some experience or an intelligent theory? I would much
    appreciate it...
     
    mamamia, Mar 14, 2007
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  2. mamamia

    hyundaitech Guest

    Realistically, this sound could be coming from anything attached to or
    driven by the engine.

    It's possible that it's coming from the air current in your intake
    manifold.

    Unfortunately, I haven't investigated any similar complaints on cars with
    your engine, so I have no significant personal experience to offer.

    My guess would be that it's coming from the drive belt(s). The belt speed
    would vary with engine speed, and it would be affected by moisture.
     
    hyundaitech, Mar 15, 2007
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  3. mamamia

    mamamia Guest

    I did use a product called Belt Dressing, and sprayed quite a lot of
    it on the belt (or rather the lower, large wheel so it gets all over
    the inside of the belt).... But it made no difference. The belt seems
    tight enough, no too tight.

    I do agree that the sound comes from any of the elements that are
    driven by the belt.... Like the Alternator, Power Steering pump, A/C
    compressor...

    Or, maybe the Timing Chain itself
     
    mamamia, Mar 16, 2007
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  4. mamamia

    wolfcub27540 Guest

    This is a defect in the Intake Manifold that Hyundai is aware of but
    refuses to do anythign about. I have been to Arbitration and now have
    hired an attorney to address Hyundai's comlete lack of responsibility for
    installing a defective part on the car and refusing to replace it.
     
    wolfcub27540, Mar 16, 2007
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  5. mamamia

    hyundaitech Guest

    I wish you hadn't put the belt dressing on. It tends to create more belt
    problems than it solves.
     
    hyundaitech, Mar 16, 2007
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  6. mamamia

    hyundaitech Guest

    I have heard some cars make a whistling type noise from aerodynamic effects
    in the intake. I don't recall any in particular beyond the XG, but know
    there was at least one other. The noise tends to exist only at certain
    airflows, certain rpm's and certain throttle openings.

    While you may find this noise annoying, I'm hard pressed to agree this is
    a defect. Many vehicles do many things that may annoy or aggravate their
    owners, but that doesn't mean the vehicle is defective.

    I'm not trying to pick on you, wolfclub, but the topic brings up an
    important point. (Hopefully you understand that although I disagree with
    your position, I respect your right to your opinion. And in this
    paragraph, I'm only using your situation as an example of difficulties
    that can arise.) The purchase of a new vehicle is a huge expense today.
    Prior to purchase, test drive the vehicle under the conditions in which
    you would normally drive the vehicle in daily use. There's quite a bit to
    deciding if a car is right for you, especially if you have strong feelings
    about what the car should and should not do. Having a $20,000 assemblage
    of metal and plastic you don't like will be very aggravating.
     
    hyundaitech, Mar 16, 2007
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  7. mamamia

    wolfcub27540 Guest

    No offense taken Hyundaitech but the work DEFECT was Hyundai's word not
    mine therefore I am simply trying to get them to own up to it and resolve
    the issue.

    Personally I do not think it is the Intake Manifold as they alledgedlly
    replaced mine and it made no difference. The problem is there is an
    identified condition Hyundai is aware of and they called it a defect so
    they should own up to it and fix it.
     
    wolfcub27540, Mar 16, 2007
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  8. mamamia

    mamamia Guest

    Not being a mechanic or even an expert in automotives, but if you read
    my initial post you’ll immeditaely realize that what I’m portraying
    here has nothing to do with "aerodynamic effects in the intake"....

    The noise is evident also when the car is not moving, in Neutral,
    while the engine is revved to about 2,000-2,500 rpm....

    Here is the essence of my complaint again:

    The sound is accurately parallel to the engine’s sound and its RPM,
    fluctuating EXACTLY as the engine-sound is fluctuating with the tranny
    shifting. It can be detected only when accelerating and especially at
    low speed..
     
    mamamia, Mar 17, 2007
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  9. mamamia

    Mike Marlow Guest

    I have no clue what your problem is, but I would take a second to shed some
    light on this post. Intake manifolds are all about aerodynamic stuff.
    That's all they are is a chamber to direct high speed air into the
    combustion chambers. The car would not have to be moving - simply running.
    And of course, if that really were the problem, it would be logical that it
    would follow speeds and shift points, since both of those affect engine
    RPM's.
     
    Mike Marlow, Mar 17, 2007
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  10. mamamia

    mamamia Guest

    Thanks for the clarification, Mike.

    So, after I will Google it to find out just WHERE I can locate the
    Intake Manifold, unless you or someone else tels me (I told you I’m no
    expert...) -- would you suggest any way to actually TEST it and try
    finding out whether the noise might be coming from there?

    If the whining/wheezing is apparent also when the car is in Park, and
    the engine revved to 2,000-2,500 -- which it is -- could I have
    someone press the gas pedal, while I’m doing the test?

    Thanks
     
    mamamia, Mar 17, 2007
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  11. One place to find a drawing or photo of components is www.hmaservice.com
    Sign up for a free account and be sure to check out the Site Requirements so
    you have the proper viewer.

    The manifold is the big thing on the side of the engine with four
    protrusions, sort of like half tubes on it. Should be on the front of the
    car if transverse mounted engine.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Mar 17, 2007
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  12. mamamia

    hyundaitech Guest

    Running the car out of gear won't necessarily produce the same sound in the
    intake manifold as it does when the car is in gear. When out of gear,
    since there's no load on the engine, the throttle isn't open as much at
    the same rpm, and the air flow will be lower as well.
     
    hyundaitech, Mar 18, 2007
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  13. mamamia

    mamamia Guest

    I have an account with hmaservice. But where can I see the drawing or
    photograph?

    And once I locate the Intake Manifold, how do I check to see whether
    the noise I’ve been complaining about comes from there?
     
    mamamia, Mar 18, 2007
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  14. mamamia

    wolfcub27540 Guest

    I went to our local car show yesterday and met a guy who is going to be in
    charge of the services department for a new Hyundai Dealership comin gto
    my area. I told him about my issues and he said he was familiar with the
    engine whine from when he worked at another Hyundai dealership. He wants
    me to bring in my car once they open in a couple weeks. This just proves
    that Hyundai is full of crap when it comes to thei issue.
     
    wolfcub27540, Mar 18, 2007
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  15. Go to SERVICE
    Then: Engine Components

    As for checking, I don't know. Do a little poking and prodding. Just keep
    your hands away from moving parts.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Mar 18, 2007
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  16. mamamia

    mamamia Guest

    Yes, the whining/wheezing noise can be reproduced also when the car is
    in Park and the engine racing...

    ....That’s why the theory of the whining/wheezing noise coming from
    one of the belt-driven elements (or maybe the Timing Chain itself?) is
    more logic, no?

    Not that it solves this mystery..
     
    mamamia, Mar 18, 2007
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  17. mamamia

    hyundaitech Guest

    If it's produced when the car is sitting still and the engine is revved, it
    should be a reasonably simple matter to probe and find the area where the
    noise is originating.
     
    hyundaitech, Mar 18, 2007
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  18. I don't have any problems with my car, but your whining and wheezing is
    getting annoying.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Mar 19, 2007
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  19. mamamia

    wolfcub27540 Guest

    "I don't have any problems with my car, but your whining and wheezing is
    getting annoying."

    Well perhaps if you would prefer not to discuss things on a discussion
    board you should take your stupid A$$ somewhere else!!!!
     
    wolfcub27540, Mar 20, 2007
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  20. ROTFLMAO!
     
    Brian Nystrom, Mar 20, 2007
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