Headlights, fog and,taillights

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by twfsa, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. twfsa

    twfsa Guest

    2004 Sonata I have had to replace every headlight,foglight,and tail light
    bulb in my 04 Sonata, I do not drive on rough roads, I have 57 k for
    mileage, had anyone else had this experience?

    Thanks
    Tom
     
    twfsa, Jun 4, 2006
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  2. twfsa

    Mike Marlow Guest

    I have an 04 Sonata and as yet, I haven't had to replace any lights. Have
    you had your car checked?
     
    Mike Marlow, Jun 4, 2006
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  3. twfsa

    twfsa Guest

    The dealer says the bulbs are not covered under warranty.
    Tom
     
    twfsa, Jun 5, 2006
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  4. twfsa

    Mike Marlow Guest

    Certainly the bulbs would not be covered under warranty - no manufacturer
    covers bulbs. You are experiencing a pretty high rate of failure of bulbs
    throughout the car though and that alone would point to other problems. I
    would like to believe the dealer would investigate this.
     
    Mike Marlow, Jun 5, 2006
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  5. twfsa

    hyundaitech Guest

    If you've got 57k on your car and you drive with the lights on, then that's
    quite a bit of time in use. As long as they all didn't blow at once (or
    near the same time), it's doubtful there's anything else going on.

    The headlamp bulbs are covered under warranty until you reach 60k.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 5, 2006
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  6. twfsa

    hyundaitech Guest

    If you've got 57k on your car and you drive with the lights on, then
    that's
    quite a bit of time in use. As long as they all didn't blow at once (or
    near the same time), it's doubtful there's anything else going on.

    The headlamp bulbs are covered under warranty until you reach 60k.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 5, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Typically, bulbs fail prematurely for two reasons:

    1. Excessive vibration and
    2. Overheating caused by overcurrent caused by overvoltage.

    Do you drive on a lot of really rough roads?

    If not, have you had your charging system checked? I assume that the
    ECM monitors voltage, but I'm not sure of that.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jun 5, 2006
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    HaynaGuy Guest

    I had two headlight bulbs replaced in my 2001 Elantra. One at 21.000
    miles by one dealer for about $22 and the second at 59,800 miles at
    another dealer which was FREE. He told me headlight and foglight
    bulbs are guaranteed for five years, all other bulbs for one year. He
    added, "Either the other dealer doesn't read the warranty details or
    he is "double dipping," getting paid by the factory and the customer.
     
    HaynaGuy, Jun 6, 2006
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  9. twfsa

    twfsa Guest

    This is my daughters car and I called the dealer, and complainted about the
    fog and headlight bulbs, and was told that it was not warranty and they
    probably are double dipping.

    Thanks
    Tom
     
    twfsa, Jun 6, 2006
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  10. twfsa

    hyundaitech Guest

    You should perhaps begin taking your business to another dealer, then.

    In response to Matt, the PCM monitors voltage, but does not control it on
    the '01 Elantra. It will know when there's a voltage issue, but it won't
    be able to do anything about it (until it fries and the car won't run).
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 6, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    It won't set the MIL if over voltage is detected?

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jun 6, 2006
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  12. twfsa

    hyundaitech Guest

    I think the MIL only sets for undervoltage. Go figure.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 7, 2006
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    nothermark Guest

    It makes some sense. The battery should be a large enough load that
    it keeps the voltage down to a safe level for the electronics. OTOH,
    if the voltage is too low the electronics won't work right.

    If I was losing lights and did not have another reason I could see I
    would start looking for a bad connection to the battery or a failing
    battery that was letting the charging voltage go a bit high. I'm
    thinking 0.1 v ranges. Measure the voltage accross the lightbulb and
    accross the battery posts with the engine revved up to cruising speed.
    It should be the same or very close.
     
    nothermark, Jun 8, 2006
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    Mike Marlow Guest

    For the OP - not sure if you checked this but my wife just came home with a
    ticket for a headlight out in our 04 Sonata. I went out and pulled the
    connector and reseated it and now the headlight works again. Did you try to
    reseat your connectors before buying new lamps? It used to be common for
    cars to experience this but that was mostly years ago. Can't go by my
    one-off experience, but I wonder if the Hyundai connectors are prone to
    either moisture or corrosion buildup.
     
    Mike Marlow, Jun 8, 2006
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    hyundaitech Guest

    The alternator regulates system voltage. I've seen numerous cases where
    the voltage regulator (inside the alternator) fails and produces too much
    voltage. Most of the time the owner sees the problem and has it fixed (or
    the alternator stops charging at all) prior to other electronics in the car
    blowing up.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 8, 2006
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    Dan K Guest

    This is a common failure mode for these halogen headlamps. In my case the
    headlight was out until I opened the hood and then closed it. The shock of
    dropping the hood 12 inches made the headlight start working again. This
    "trick" worked twice in the following 3 days or so and then the light was
    out for good. I thought I had a wiring or socket problem but it was the
    bulb. The parts guy at the Hyundai dealership where I got the new light
    bulb from said this is pretty common.
     
    Dan K, Jun 9, 2006
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