Headlights on 2006 Sonata

  • Thread starter Thread starter Bob
  • Start date Start date
B

Bob

I mentioned in an earlier post that I have a problem with the headlights on
my 06 Sonata GLS. Basically, it came from the factory with the headlights so
high, it blinded (verified by me driving towards it in another vehicle,
while my wife was driving it) oncoming traffic. Anyway, first trip to the
dealer resulted in headlights that were so low, they might as well not be
on.

Next trip to the dealer the next day resulted in me lighting the trees
better than the road. On advice from people here, I adjusted them down such
that they lit the road, and didn't seem too high. I still got blinded from
oncoming traffic flashing because they think I've left the high beams on.
(Believe it or not, the NC DMV driver manual says to do that!
http://tinyurl.com/a444l )

Off to the dealer I went again. They cranked them way down again. Anyone
else have a similar issue theirs? It seems the choice is either lights too
low to be usable, or blind the other guy which results in them blinding you.
 
Bob said:
I mentioned in an earlier post that I have a problem with the headlights on
my 06 Sonata GLS. Basically, it came from the factory with the headlights so
high, it blinded (verified by me driving towards it in another vehicle,
while my wife was driving it) oncoming traffic. Anyway, first trip to the
dealer resulted in headlights that were so low, they might as well not be
on.

Next trip to the dealer the next day resulted in me lighting the trees
better than the road. On advice from people here, I adjusted them down such
that they lit the road, and didn't seem too high. I still got blinded from
oncoming traffic flashing because they think I've left the high beams on.
(Believe it or not, the NC DMV driver manual says to do that!
http://tinyurl.com/a444l )

Off to the dealer I went again. They cranked them way down again. Anyone
else have a similar issue theirs? It seems the choice is either lights too
low to be usable, or blind the other guy which results in them blinding you.
Click to expand...

Nope, mine were fine out of the box. I haven't looked at mine, but
assuming they adjust with a screwdriver or hex wrench like most other
cars, just adjust them yourself. Turn them down one revolution of the
screw at a time until you get them where you want them. This isn't
rocket science.


Matt
 
Matt Whiting said:
Nope, mine were fine out of the box. I haven't looked at mine, but
assuming they adjust with a screwdriver or hex wrench like most other
cars, just adjust them yourself. Turn them down one revolution of the
screw at a time until you get them where you want them. This isn't rocket
science.


Matt
Click to expand...
I know it's not rocket science. As far as adjusting them, been there, tried
that. If I adjust them so they light the road for a reasonable distance -
similar to my other vehicle, there's alot of light that projects well above
the surface of the road that annoys oncoming traffic. It's almost like a
second beam that's angled up. You can actually adjust them with your fingers
on the adjustment screws. The dealer says they've had several complaints,
but "these new headlights are just that way".
 
I noticed similar on ours. While driving in front of my wife I noticed
that depending on what side of the lights your viewing bias is from,
that side appears brighter than the other. Switching your viewing bias
produces the same effect on the other side. I can only think that the
beams are a more focused than lights I've previously seen on other
vehicles...........Doc
 
Bob said:
I know it's not rocket science. As far as adjusting them, been there, tried
that. If I adjust them so they light the road for a reasonable distance -
similar to my other vehicle, there's alot of light that projects well above
the surface of the road that annoys oncoming traffic. It's almost like a
second beam that's angled up. You can actually adjust them with your fingers
on the adjustment screws. The dealer says they've had several complaints,
but "these new headlights are just that way".
Click to expand...

Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal lines
on it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your headlights
so they both project to the same line on the wall. Test drive it. If
necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the lights. This
method allows you to adjust your lights in small increments and keep
them both at the same height.

BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the headlights
and Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the equipment to
adjust the headlights properly.
 
Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
separated.)

GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
 
Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
separated.)

GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
Click to expand...

Why would you be driving around with your fog lights on? That IS
distracting to most drivers. If it's not foggy out they provide no benefit
except to illuminate about 6 feet in front of your car and annoy oncoming
drivers.

You *do* know there is a switch to turn them off, right?

Eric
 
Brian Nystrom said:
Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal lines on
it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your headlights so
they both project to the same line on the wall. Test drive it. If
necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the lights. This
method allows you to adjust your lights in small increments and keep them
both at the same height.

BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the headlights and
Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the equipment to adjust the
headlights properly.
Click to expand...

The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark straight
road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and blinds the
oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that they use for ALL
vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the dealer has set them, and
they still blind oncoming traffic. I have seen this for myself driving at
the car on a two lane road. There is something very different about the
lights on this car from those that I have owned previously.
 
GeoUSA said:
Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
separated.)

GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
Click to expand...
I'm getting flashed with only the low beams - no driving lights - on. I'm
going to submit it to NHTSA. I suggest all others that have the same problem
do the same.
 
Bob said:
The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark straight
road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and blinds the
oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that they use for ALL
vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the dealer has set them, and
they still blind oncoming traffic. I have seen this for myself driving at
the car on a two lane road. There is something very different about the
lights on this car from those that I have owned previously.
Click to expand...

Do you see this second beam if you pull up to within 10' or so of a
wall? I know that many of the new cars with the reflector headlights
have a very sharp cut-off compared to the old sealed beam headlights.
This causes the lights to appear to be flashing when an oncoming car is
on a undulating road as the intensity changes very quickly with just a
little vertical distance. I personally don't like this either as a
driver of such a vehicle or as someone approaching such a vehicle. The
flashing affect is annoying when coming at you and the sharp cut-off is
a real pain when driving in the hilly terrain around my house. When
driving down into a valley, you can't see up the other side at all as
the beam cuts off so sharply. The old sealed beams had such a diffuse
beam that you got enough light going sideways and upwards that you still
have some sight distance even when approaching the bottom of a valley or
large dip.


Matt
 
Matt said:
Do you see this second beam if you pull up to within 10' or so of a
wall? I know that many of the new cars with the reflector headlights
have a very sharp cut-off compared to the old sealed beam headlights.
This causes the lights to appear to be flashing when an oncoming car is
on a undulating road as the intensity changes very quickly with just a
little vertical distance. I personally don't like this either as a
driver of such a vehicle or as someone approaching such a vehicle. The
flashing affect is annoying when coming at you and the sharp cut-off is
a real pain when driving in the hilly terrain around my house. When
driving down into a valley, you can't see up the other side at all as
the beam cuts off so sharply. The old sealed beams had such a diffuse
beam that you got enough light going sideways and upwards that you still
have some sight distance even when approaching the bottom of a valley or
large dip.
Click to expand...

The point of having the sharp cutoff on the left side of the beam is to
NOT blind drivers in the opposite lane. The right side of the beam is
not cut off, so it can illuminate road signs. Overall, this scheme works
pretty well. It's nothing new, as I had Hella headlights with a similar
pattern 25 years ago. Back then, they weren't street legal, since they
weren't sealed beams, which were still required by the DOT at the time.
 
Bob said:
I'm getting flashed with only the low beams - no driving lights - on. I'm
going to submit it to NHTSA. I suggest all others that have the same problem
do the same.
Click to expand...
What problem? That's the way headlights are now.
 
Brian Nystrom said:
What problem? That's the way headlights are now.
Click to expand...

The problem with them is that they bother oncoming traffic to the point that
they turn their high beams on, subsequently negatively affecting my ability
to see. Not all new car headlights are that way. The very worst ones are the
HID headlights on the high end cars. The problem is that there is a
significant amount of light being projected above the road surface from the
lights in my car.
 
Bob said:
The problem with them is that they bother oncoming traffic to the point that
they turn their high beams on, subsequently negatively affecting my ability
to see. Not all new car headlights are that way. The very worst ones are the
HID headlights on the high end cars. The problem is that there is a
significant amount of light being projected above the road surface from the
lights in my car.
Click to expand...

They won't if they are adjusted properly. I've had my Sonata exactly
one month now and I've had only two drivers flash their highs at me in
1500 mmiles of driving. And one was on the way home the night I picked
up the car. I thought I might have a problem, but I don't.

I still think your problem is 80% improper adjustment and at most 20%
the brightness or design of the headlight beam.

I find that lots of new cars make me think they have their high beams
on, especially those blue light specials.

Matt
 
Brian said:
The point of having the sharp cutoff on the left side of the beam is to
NOT blind drivers in the opposite lane. The right side of the beam is
not cut off, so it can illuminate road signs. Overall, this scheme works
pretty well. It's nothing new, as I had Hella headlights with a similar
pattern 25 years ago. Back then, they weren't street legal, since they
weren't sealed beams, which were still required by the DOT at the time.
Click to expand...

I know the purpose of it, however, the assumptions aren't right for
where I live. This sharp cutoff is only useful if you always drive on
smooth, flat roads. Here in northern PA and upstate NY, either
assumption is good on virtually any road I drive other than the
interstates. And even then only on certain stretches.

In the real world, a sharp cutoff is dumb and is very annoying as you
now see a rapidly varying intensity from oncoming car headlights rather
than the fairly steady intensity with the old sealed beams. Maybe the
intensity was higher on average in the old days, but I much prefer that
to the "flashing" affect of the newer light designs.

Also, the right side of my Hyundai's pattern is cut-off pretty far to
the right. It doesn't illuminate signs well on low beam, not as well as
my 94 Chevy truck, and it makes the white background signs so bright
on high beam that they nearly blind me! The cutoff portion of the
pattern extends clear across the road well onto the berm as I can't see
the road ahead worth beans when going down into a dip.

I haven't pulled up to a wall yet to look at the pattern in more detail,
but will try that some night to see if I can tell where the cutoff ends.

Matt
 
Matt Whiting said:
They won't if they are adjusted properly. I've had my Sonata exactly one
month now and I've had only two drivers flash their highs at me in 1500
mmiles of driving. And one was on the way home the night I picked up the
car. I thought I might have a problem, but I don't.

I still think your problem is 80% improper adjustment and at most 20% the
brightness or design of the headlight beam.

I find that lots of new cars make me think they have their high beams on,
especially those blue light specials.

Matt
Click to expand...

I've tried my best to adjust them with no success. I've taken it to the
dealer three times, and they adjust them so that they either light the
trees, or light the road in a nice spot 30 feet in front of the car. The
dealer insists that the precision aligned concrete block wall is the way
they adjust all headlights. I've tried the reasonable approach of lighting
the road for a decent distance, which is lower than the dealer adjusted them
twice. Maybe someone at Hyundai reads the NHTSA submittals, and will realize
they've got an issue. Calling Hyundai and asking them what to do about the
fact that the dealer can't align the headlights, and asking for suggestions
resulted in me being told that I need to talk to the dealer because they
handle all issues related to the vehicle. As far as continuing to mess with
it myself.... It's under warranty. I need to drive it, put gas and
windshield washer fluid in it, and do PM's to it. Anything else is Hyundai's
problem to resolve.
 
Bob said:
I've tried my best to adjust them with no success. I've taken it to the
dealer three times, and they adjust them so that they either light the
trees, or light the road in a nice spot 30 feet in front of the car. The
dealer insists that the precision aligned concrete block wall is the way
they adjust all headlights. I've tried the reasonable approach of lighting
the road for a decent distance, which is lower than the dealer adjusted them
twice. Maybe someone at Hyundai reads the NHTSA submittals, and will realize
they've got an issue. Calling Hyundai and asking them what to do about the
fact that the dealer can't align the headlights, and asking for suggestions
resulted in me being told that I need to talk to the dealer because they
handle all issues related to the vehicle. As far as continuing to mess with
it myself.... It's under warranty. I need to drive it, put gas and
windshield washer fluid in it, and do PM's to it. Anything else is Hyundai's
problem to resolve.
Click to expand...

Is there a different Hyundai dealer within a reasonable driving range?
Might be worth giving someone else a shot. Maybe even an independent
dealer. Unless the lights on my Sonata are different than yours, mine
are proof that they can be adjusted reasonably well. On low beam, mine
illuminate as much of the road on the level as does my pickup and
illuminates much better than does my Dodge minivan. The only complaint
is the cut-off when I'm driving into and out of a dip. My van has a
similar cut-off problem, but my pickup lights up a good part of the hill
ahead even before I start coming up out of the dip.

On high beam, the Sonata is one of the better vehicles I've ever had.
It is as good as or better than my truck, and nearly as good as my
Kawasaki Voyager motorcycle was. Yes, you heard that right, my Kawasaki
Voyager, with only one headlight, lit the road better than any other
vehicle I've ever owned ... on high beam. On low beam, it has the same
cut-off problem as the Hyundai. It as a real pain when you rolled into
a corner and saw the inside of the corner get really dark really quickly.

I wouldn't give up yet, but I can certainly understand your frustration
with your dealer. I think it is a long shot, but it certainly is
possible that you got a defective headlight reflector or two. If
something got distorted during manufacturing, maybe that is the problem.
Might ask the dealer to let you drive another Sonata or two at night
to see if they are any different than your car.

Matt
 
Many years ago I had a new car with a similar problem on the drivers side
head lamp. Eventually it turned out that the bulb filament had not been
properly positioned within the bulb itself when it was manufactured.
Therefore no matter how you adjusted the lamp assembly, the filament was
never in the centre focal point where it needs to be for a clean
distribution pattern. This didn't come to 'light' until the low beam burned
out & I replaced it. The new one showed me how it should have been from the
start!
BCinBC
 
Many years ago I had a new car with a similar problem on the drivers side
head lamp. Eventually it turned out that the bulb filament had not been
properly positioned within the bulb itself when it was manufactured.
Therefore no matter how you adjusted the lamp assembly, the filament was
never in the centre focal point where it needs to be for a clean
distribution pattern. This didn't come to 'light' until the low beam
burned out & I replaced it. The new one showed me how it should have been
from the start!
Click to expand...

I'm not giving anything up yet. I will be calling Hyundai again in addition
to the complaint I've filed with NHTSA. I've become rapidly disappointed
with the technical expertise at the dealer I bought it from. From the
headlights, to stealing tires from another vehicle on their lot to fix a
tire problem, to me standing there asking the service writer why the tech
used an impact gun to tighten the lug nuts on my alloy wheels with no torque
stick. His response to the service writer at that point was that they never
told him to use torque sticks. There's no other Hyundai dealer within 70
miles of here - Wilmington NC.
 
Bob said:
I'm not giving anything up yet. I will be calling Hyundai again in addition
to the complaint I've filed with NHTSA. I've become rapidly disappointed
with the technical expertise at the dealer I bought it from. From the
headlights, to stealing tires from another vehicle on their lot to fix a
tire problem, to me standing there asking the service writer why the tech
used an impact gun to tighten the lug nuts on my alloy wheels with no torque
stick. His response to the service writer at that point was that they never
told him to use torque sticks. There's no other Hyundai dealer within 70
miles of here - Wilmington NC.
Click to expand...

Wilmington, NC, eh. I haven't been there in some time, but just about
lived there for 2.5 years back in the early 80s. I work for Corning
Incorporated and we were expanding our plant there pretty rapidly
through that time.

I'd still ask the dealer to let you drive one to two other Sonata's just
to see if you have a defective light possibly.

Matt

P.S. Is the Trails End restaurant still around? Always loved that
place even though it was never quite the same after it was rebuilt.
 
Back
Top