How to use defrost only with FAN?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Baris Akocan, Feb 15, 2004.

  1. Baris Akocan

    Baris Akocan Guest

    Every Hyundai Accent owner knows that whenever you turn on the air
    blow to the windshield, the AC turns on Automatically. Is there a way
    to switch this off so that I can save on gas?

    Thanks
     
    Baris Akocan, Feb 15, 2004
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    Pete & Cindy Guest

    I dont have an accent, but I have an Elantra GT that does the same thing, I
    just wait till the windows clearn off and push the A/C button and turn it
    off and the blower still goes....
     
    Pete & Cindy, Feb 16, 2004
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    NobodyMan Guest

    Relax. In the old days, the A/C compressor running ate up gas. Now,
    it might take maybe 1 mpg off your mileage. Not enough to lose a lot
    of sleep (or money) over.
     
    NobodyMan, Feb 16, 2004
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    Jim Lofgren Guest

    In the Pacific Northwest we like the AC on to dry out the air and clear the
    windows more quickly.
     
    Jim Lofgren, Feb 16, 2004
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    Pankoski Guest

    No there isn't a way to shut it off. The AC comes on to dehumidify the
    window area, thus clearing it more quickly.
    You won't notice any change in gas mileage even if you could turn it off.
    The AC automatically turns off (disconnects the compressor drive
    momentarily/as necesary) during periods of heavy load, like during
    acceleration or going up steep hills, etc.
     
    Pankoski, Feb 17, 2004
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    Xiaoding Guest

    "No there isn't a way to shut it off. The AC comes on to dehumidify the
    window area, thus clearing it more quickly."

    Clears WHAT more quickly? The ice? Don't think so! :)
     
    Xiaoding, Feb 18, 2004
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  7. When air saturated with water vapor is exposed to cold windshields, the
    water vapor condenses on the inside of the windshield--freezes if the
    windshield's cold enough. When it's cold, it doesn't take much to
    saturate the air with water vapor; 2 or 3 humans breathing normally in
    an enclosed car will do that. I've seen this happen many times, but
    then I live in Michigan, where it's usually humid and it's cold ~5
    months of the year.

    Ice on the *outside* of the windshield isn't affected by the moisture
    content of the air coming from the defroster, just the warmth. You
    still don't want moist air blowing against a cold windshield because
    you'll get fog or ice forming on the windshield. Does this make sense
    to you now?
     
    Dances With Crows, Feb 18, 2004
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    Pankoski Guest

    Read the reply - did I say ice? No, I said humidity on the inside of the
    window. Do you get ice forming on the inside of your windshield normally?
    Think before you reply next time.
     
    Pankoski, Feb 18, 2004
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    Xiaoding Guest

    It makes sense that some folks have forgotten to define their terms.
    AC on during defrost does NOT defrost the windshield more quickly! IT
    TAKES LONGER.
    Your talking about FOG, which is different than DEFROSTING. To say
    that AC on
    during defrost is quicker, is WRONG.

    Xin
     
    Xiaoding, Feb 19, 2004
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    Xiaoding Guest

    No, what you said was this:

    "No there isn't a way to shut it off. The AC comes on to dehumidify
    the
    window area, thus clearing it more quickly."

    No mention was made as to what side of the window you were referring
    to, nor as to what "clearing it more quickly" was referring to.

    I am just trying to make the point that some people are playing fast
    and lose with some terms here, and some readers might get the
    impression that AC defrosts the windsheild more quickly. It doesn't.
    It actually slows it down, hence the desire of some to get rid of this
    "feature". AC does work great with DEFOGGING, and I and many others
    have survived thus far by turning on the AC WHEN WE NEED TO, BY
    ACTUALLY USING THE AC SWITCH. :)

    Xin
     
    Xiaoding, Feb 19, 2004
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    theta00k Guest

    If the cabin is cold enough to form frost inside the windshield, the A/C
    does not come on.
     
    theta00k, Feb 19, 2004
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    NobodyMan Guest

    No, the A/C won't run, but the AC compressor will run when the
    defroster is turned on.
     
    NobodyMan, Feb 20, 2004
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    theta00k Guest

    The ECU monitors the input from the thermistor on the A/C evaporator to
    prevent frosting of the evap. core surface. At start-up, if the temp. is below
    set threshold, usually around 32 degrees, the ECU does not send ground signal
    to the A/C relay, which means the compressor is not activated.
     
    theta00k, Feb 20, 2004
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    Pete & Cindy Guest

    can you not just push the A/C button as I can in my 2004 Elantra GT and turn
    it off in the defrost position???



     
    Pete & Cindy, Feb 20, 2004
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    NobodyMan Guest

     
    NobodyMan, Feb 21, 2004
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    theta00k Guest

    The thermometer is ON the evaporator, which is loacted INSIDE the cabin.
    It does not measure ambient temperature.
     
    theta00k, Feb 29, 2004
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