Hyundai financing question

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by CNP, Feb 1, 2006.

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    CNP Guest

    We bought a new Hyundai car with their own financing because there was a
    rebate. We really want to pay the amount off.

    The dealer tells me that if I pay off the entire loan within 4 months of
    purchase, the Hyundai fianancing department takes the rebate amount from the
    dealer. Is that true?
     
    CNP, Feb 1, 2006
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    Bob Wolf Guest

    It was explained to me that you had to make three payments to keep
    from loosing the rebate, so four months sound right.
     
    Bob Wolf, Feb 1, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    My dealer told me 3 months, however, I couldn't find any such wording in
    the loan agreement. My agreement did have a statement in it about a
    prepayment penalty. It had two boxes that could be checked, one that
    said prepayment "may" incur a penalty and the other which said that
    prepayment "will not" incur a penalty. When the salesman gave me the
    paperwork, most things were typed in, but neither of these boxes was
    checked. So, I checked the "will not" box and signed the paper. I
    figured someone at Hyundai would object, but I got my copy in the mail a
    couple of weeks later with the box checked. I may pay mine off when I
    get my tax refund, but that will be after 3 months anyway, but if they
    try to steal my rebate I'll send my lawyer after them.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 1, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Same here, but I could not find that ANYWHERE in writing and I read all
    of the paperwork before signing it. Did you find it in writing
    anywhere? I only got it verbally from the salesman.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 1, 2006
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    Bob Guest

    THERE IS NO PENALTY!!!!
    I did just what you are proposing. I bought the car in December, and paid it
    off in the beginning of January. I refinanced the 6.99% loan from Hyundai
    with a 4.25% loan from a credit union. The only requirement that there is is
    that you finance the car. After it's financed, you can pay it off anytime.
    This was verified by Hyundai finance. Call them yourself. After you buy it,
    you only need to wait long enough for HMFC to send the "welcome" letter that
    shows your account number. The payoff amount you get when you call is THE
    payoff. There is no document that you sign where you agree to delaying
    anything. It's not like they (the dealer) have any recourse anyway. The
    dealer wants you to wait because they get a kickback from the interest every
    month. It only cost me ~$65 in interest, and $15.00 for the re-title at the
    credit union to get the $1000. Not only that, the CU was 2.75% cheaper.
    Also, the credit union offered "GAP" insurance for $199, which I paid.

    More info from my experiences for those that are going to buy....
    DO NOT buy GAP insurance at the dealer. They'll try to get $600 for it.
    Also, when you get to the F&I guy / girl, make sure that the line "total
    amount finance" = what you agreed to for a price - the rebates + taxes.
    Also, the "doc fee" is pretty much pure profit. Remember, you are paying for
    the taxes, title, and tags on a different line. They'll say ANYTHING to get
    that. They also tried a cute stunt where they included routine maint in the
    total. I never asked for that, and he wasn't happy when I had him remove it.
    It was something like another $50 a month. I of course got the song and
    dance about voiding the warranty.

    Remember that the amount above invoice + holdback is all profit. Nothing
    wrong with them making a reasonable profit - maybe 3-5% above cost, which is
    basically what the holdback is supposed to be. Go look it up at
    http://www.carsdirect.com/home You really shouldn't pay much more than their
    bottom line + tax + tags + title (Title is ~$50 here in NC) . Remember,
    those items have NOTHING to do with the dealer profit device called the "doc
    fee". You are paying the state for them - you have to - you are GIVING the
    dealer the money for the doc. fee.

    When asked if you have a trade in, don't lie. Honest answer is.... I do, but
    I'm not sure whether I'm going to trade it in here, or sell it on my own. It
    depends on what you are willing to offer me on it. We'll discuss that later,
    after we figure out how much the car I'm buying is going to be. They don't
    get the keys to your car to look it over until you've nailed down the price
    on what you are buying. Make sure it's locked, and only give them a spare
    set of keys. I once had a dealer in Owego, NY (A Chrysler dealer) "lose" my
    keys. They had a rep. for doing that, so I was prepared. You'll know what
    you are really getting for your trade, and can take it or leave it. If push
    comes to shove, you can ALWAYS walk until you have signed the reg. transfer
    stuff in the F&I office. Buyer's order means nothing. They are more likely
    to do whatever it takes (reasonably) on the trade after you've run them
    through the new car price negotiations.
     
    Bob, Feb 2, 2006
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    Bob Guest

    If you wait three months, assuming 7%, $20k, and 5 years, you will lose
    about $360 from paying interest. I refinanced mine about 2 weeks after
    buying it.

    I'd be interested in knowing what you guys (youz guys = Y'all down here in
    the south - I'm not a native) got for an interest rate from HMFC. I got
    6.99% and my score is 782. Higher than some value - unknown - is gravy for
    the dealer.
     
    Bob, Feb 2, 2006
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    Barry Scott Guest

    Financing a little over 16K, we got 6.2% for 5 years. Refinanced before
    the first payment was due and there was no penalty. I'd have to look up
    the figures to be sure, but it seems like we "lost" about $70 by
    financing through HMFC to get the rebate.

    Barry
     
    Barry Scott, Feb 7, 2006
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    zigipha Guest

    how can you lose $70? if you got $1,000 financing rebate and paid off
    the car in a month?

    seems like you gained $930
     
    zigipha, Feb 7, 2006
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  9. how can you lose $70? if you got $1,000 financing rebate and paid off
    You don't suppose that's why he put "lost" in quotation marks, do you?
     
    WuzYoungOnceToo, Feb 17, 2006
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