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Matt Whiting
Thee said:
I'll take it!
Matt
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Eric G.
Hey!! How did you get pictures of my next car??
Seriously, it looks awesome. Hyundai, the title to my Sonata is ready to
be signed over for one of these. Let's go already
Eric
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Matt Whiting
Eric said:Hey!! How did you get pictures of my next car??
Seriously, it looks awesome. Hyundai, the title to my Sonata is ready to
be signed over for one of these. Let's go already
Eric
Well, I feel much the same, but I need to see the price tag first. I'm
guessing 40 grand or better and I'm not sure I'll pony up that much for
anything less than a Vette. Yes, I know a Vette is well over $40K, but
it would be worth it!
Matt
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jp103
Matt
From what I understand there will be two engine offerings for the
Genesis - a 6 and an 8. The 6 is supposed to be under 30k not sure how
that will compete with the Azera but works for me. Also if you are
looking for a 07 Vette for only 43k
http://www.fitzmall.com/carfind/res...V071YY07&loc=FCG&mall=FD&year=2007&mk_code=CV
From what I understand there will be two engine offerings for the
Genesis - a 6 and an 8. The 6 is supposed to be under 30k not sure how
that will compete with the Azera but works for me. Also if you are
looking for a 07 Vette for only 43k
http://www.fitzmall.com/carfind/res...V071YY07&loc=FCG&mall=FD&year=2007&mk_code=CV
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Edwin Pawlowski
Matt Whiting said:
I read someplace that it is supposed to be sub 40. They are going after
Avalon and the cheap Caddy.
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Matt Whiting
jp103 said:
Thanks, but that isn't a REAL Vette. Only the Z06 counts for me!
If you find a Z06 new for $43K, please do let me know!!
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Brian Nystrom
Thee said:
So now Hyundai is going to join the ranks of manufacturers of
overpowered gas-hogs? How utterly unimpressive!
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Eric G.
Agreed about the Vette. The article from the OP speculated that the MSRP
for the V8 would be around $35k, and around $30k for the V6.
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Leonardo
Yeah, I guess the days of the cute, quirky value leader Hyundais are
gone
Maybe their new motto should be "Hyundai, Just Another Car Company"
When is the Chinese stuff due to hit the US?
L.
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Matt Whiting
Brian said:
I haven't seen any power or MPG figures, have you? For a performance
oriented car there is no such thing as too much power. And gas-hog is
purely subjective.
Matt
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Matt Whiting
Leonardo said:
Yes, it certainly looks that way! And all the people said "Amen!"
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Thee Chicago Wolf
Yeah, I guess the days of the cute, quirky value leader Hyundais are
Next year from what my friend has told me. Funny thing though, I
wonder if the very high gas mileage rating will carry over from China
as well. Sure China makes Walmart and pretty much every other box-box
filthy rich, but I wonder what they cars will be like. Probably fall
apart after a couple days.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
Next year from what my friend has told me. Funny thing though, I
wonder if the very high gas mileage rating will carry over from China
as well. Sure China makes Walmart and pretty much every other box-box
filthy rich, but I wonder what they cars will be like. Probably fall
apart after a couple days.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
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Thee Chicago Wolf
Thee said:
Last I checked, rear-wheel drive was dropped by all auto-makers
because it is horribly inefficient and wastes much more gas. I'm not
sure which market Hyundai is trying to please exactly: The Muscle-car
crowd? (Yeah right, a HYUNDAI muscle car. Uh huh.), the
can't-afford-a-Shelby-mid-life-crisis-but-damn-is-my-warranty-good
crowd, or the to hell with fuel economy and gas prices I want to peel
out.........in my HYUNDAI. I'll give it props on the looks but
rear-wheel drive is a non-starter and a dumb idea.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
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Matt Whiting
Thee said:
You are sadly misinformed. There is very little difference in
efficiency between FWD and RWD, probably almost immeasurable. Where did
you get that idea?
RWD is a great idea for a car oriented towards performance. FWD is a
dumb idea for a performance car as you are asking two tires to provide
traction for both acceleration and corning rather than balancing the
forces between all four tires. That is why true performance cars such
as BMW still use RWD.
Matt
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Brian Nystrom
Matt said:
All of what people?
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Matt Whiting
Brian said:
The smart people.
Matt
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Brian Nystrom
Matt said:
Oh puleeze! I'm not going to argue that restrictions should be placed on
horsepower or anything like that, but it's long past time that people
started being more realistic as to what's really necessary in a car.
There is not a single valid argument for having more than 180-200
horsepower in a passenger car. It's one thing if you need a truck to
haul or tow huge loads, but in passenger cars, it's simply frivolous and
wasteful. If you want a toy, you can get all the performance you want in
smaller, lighter cars that actually get decent gas mileage and don't
cost a fortune, just ask Lotus.
Hardly. There is no excuse for passenger vehicles that can't get at
least 25 mpg on the highway. There's also no excuse for wasting finite
resources by driving oversize vehicles with huge engines.
It's long past time that gas guzzler taxes were reintroduced. Perhaps
it's time for a horsepower tax, too. Put the money into development of
alternative fuel technologies and we'll all be better off.
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Edwin Pawlowski
Brian Nystrom said:
So if you can get 350 horsepower from an engine that gets 60 mpg, it should
be taxed due to excessive horsepower? If you want alternative ideas, don't
put a tax on them.
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Edwin Pawlowski
Thee Chicago Wolf said:
Wow, that is one of the most short sighted statements I've read in a long
time. Since this is a Hyundai group, can I assume you drive a Hyundai? Do
you recall the same thing being said (truthfully, I might add) about Hyundai
in 1986? The first generation of Hyundai was crap. The Chinese are very
capable of making a good product along with some of the junk we ask for. It
will be interesting to see what shows up.
