manual or shiftronic?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by fm_bruggemanNo, Jul 17, 2004.

  1. Who has experience with the Hyundai car manual transmittion, or
    shiftronic transmittion? Please tell pro and cons of both the systems
    and why should one choose either of these.
    Francis
     
    fm_bruggemanNo, Jul 17, 2004
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  2. ? "Shiftronic" = "automatic transmission with an easy way of telling
    the transmission to go up or down 1 gear". The interface is slightly
    different from a "normal" automatic transmission, but you can put it in
    D and just drive without worrying about what gear the car's in. That's
    the main pro for automatic transmissions in general. I have a V6
    Tiburon with a Shiftronic transmission, and I don't use the Shiftronic
    feature very often. I'd use it more if the car had less power.

    The cons for auto trannies are worse fuel economy (auto trannies are
    much heavier than manual trannies), fewer gears, and some power loss at
    lower speeds due to the fluid coupling used.

    You didn't say which model of Hyundai you were thinking about buying.
    The 2003 V6 Tiburon ("Tuscani" or "Coupe" in .nl) had a number of
    complaints about the clutch in the manual-tranny models. Apparently,
    they used the same clutch on the I4 and V6 Tiburons and that clutch
    couldn't take the extra power of the larger engine. This meant many
    Tiburon owners had to get the clutch rebuilt at ~15,000 miles. Usually,
    you don't have to get the clutch rebuilt until 80,000 or 100,000 miles.
    Folks at newtiburon.com recommended an aftermarket racing clutch as the
    best solution here. The problem may have been fixed in the 2004 line;
    I'm not sure. I'm also not sure about the manual transmissions on other
    Hyundai models.
    You're in .nl, where gas is way too expensive. Get the manual tranny if
    you can drive stick; you'll save a lot of money upfront and over the
    life of the car.
     
    Dances With Crows, Jul 17, 2004
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  3. Thanks for the fast reply.
    Is the conclusion correct, that stronger engines *benefit* more when a
    Shiftronic is used?
    This seems to be a disadvantage in an hilly/or moutain area, correct?
    Was thinking of a Tucson 2.7i.
    But this car carries of lot of weight and seems to use a lot of fuel
    per km/mile too. My orginal idea was that an automatic transmission
    would economize the use of fuel, but, this doesn't seem to be true.
    This sounds serious. :-(
    My experience with the Matrix model manual transmission is possitive.
    I grew up with it, so this can't be a problem.

    Thanks for your answers
     
    fm_bruggemanNo, Jul 18, 2004
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  4. fm_bruggemanNo

    Frank B. Guest

    I also have a 2003 V6 Tib and when the transmission DOES go out my warranty will cover it. I forget how many years the drive train is covered.......7 or 10 !!???
     
    Frank B., Jul 20, 2004
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  5. More horsepower means... well, more power generated at any time. I'll
    rephrase: I don't need to use the Shiftronic feature very often because
    a V6 Tiburon has enough power to accelerate and pass about 99% of all
    the trucks and about 75% of all the other cars on the road. I'd have to
    use the Shiftronic more if the engine were smaller, since the power peak
    for the engine is ~4500 RPM and the normal shift point is ~3000 RPM.
    Yeah, but it's not really noticable in most cases. The first car I
    drove was a Ford Tempo with an auto tranny, and it had no problems with
    the hills in Houghton, Michigan. That town is in the middle of a very
    hilly area.
    At highway speeds, the difference in fuel economy between manual and
    auto is pretty small, thanks to lock-up torque converters.

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    Dances With Crows, Jul 20, 2004
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  6. 10 years for the 2003 models. The transmission will be covered,
    assuming "normal use", which means you may be out of luck if you drive
    it really hard or you go drag racing every weekend. The clutch is not
    covered because it's a "wear item".
     
    Dances With Crows, Jul 20, 2004
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  7. fm_bruggemanNo

    Scott K Guest

    I don't know if people have learned about this already, but the
    Shiftronic™ transmission can skip a gear when in use. Let's say
    you're in fourth gear and you come to a hill. Manually clicking the
    shift lever down twice makes the transmission skip third gear and shift
    into second. Or once you get to the top of the hill, clicking the lever
    up twice shifts directly into fourth, skipping third gear.

    ~Scott
     
    Scott K, Jul 31, 2004
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