Oil filter and sludge.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by irwell, Mar 9, 2007.

  1. irwell

    irwell Guest

    What was the consensus on what type of oil filter
    to use on a Hyaundai Elantra?

    An article in today's paper was about engine damage due
    to sludge on some makes of cars, even though the owners had
    carried out the specified oil and filters changes.
     
    irwell, Mar 9, 2007
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  2. irwell

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I use Hyundai brand on my Sonata as I was able to buy a case mail order
    for about what other brands cost locally. NAPA makes good filters as do
    Purolater and others. I'd mainly stay away from the filters that cost
    much less than $5, such as the low-end Fram and Wal-Mart generic brands
    (Super Tech or something like that).

    Sludge formation is not related to the oil filter.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Mar 9, 2007
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  3. irwell

    irwell Guest

    This from the article in the NY Times.

    Alack of adequate oil changes is
    the explanation for damage given
    by Audi, Lexus, Saab, Toyota and
    VW. Yet unlike Chrysler and
    Dodge, those automakers have
    formal compensation programs
    for sludge damage, although in
    some cases consumers must pro~
    vide detailed, service records -
    and in the case of Saab, must have
    used oil filters sold only by the
    company.
     
    irwell, Mar 10, 2007
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  4. irwell

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Like I said, the oil filter isn't related to sludge. It may be related
    to the engine warranty, but it has nothing to do with whether sludge
    forms or not.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the above is illegal anyway
    (Magnusson-Morrison act if memory servers) so if you get a decent lawyer
    it won't matter what brand of filter you used.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Mar 10, 2007
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  5. irwell

    Eric G. Guest

    Actually, I don't believe it is illegal, but according to that act if
    the manufacturer requires it, they must provide it for FREE.

    I believe it was Ferrari, sometime in the last few years, required a
    "special" oil for the Enzo. The dealer was charging some ridiculous
    amount per quart, and the car needed something like 12 quarts per oil
    change. One owner fought this in court (because Ferrari refused to
    follow the act) and won. Ferrari now provides the oil for free.

    Eric
     
    Eric G., Mar 10, 2007
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  6. irwell

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Yes, I believe you are correct in that giving away required items will
    keep one out of trouble with M-M.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Mar 10, 2007
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  7. Wish I had know earlier. Instead of a Hyundai, I'd get me one of those
    Fur-arees with free earl. Damn.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Mar 11, 2007
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  8. irwell

    Eric G. Guest

    Yeah, I guess after paying $1,000,000 for the Enzo, the guy didn't have
    enough left for the oil :)

    Eric
     
    Eric G., Mar 11, 2007
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  9. irwell

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Don't you know by now that nothing is free!

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Mar 11, 2007
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  10. irwell

    irwell Guest

    Have you noticed that some of the major gas suppliers
    like Shell are putting out adverts warning about discount gas
    being harmful? They even show valve stems with carbon deposits on
    them.
    Wonder if their profits are being challenged.
     
    irwell, Mar 11, 2007
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  11. irwell

    Eric G. Guest

    And the price of Tea in China is up.

    Eric
     
    Eric G., Mar 11, 2007
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    irwell Guest

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    Matt Whiting Guest

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    Eric G. Guest

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  15. irwell

    Eric G. Guest

    My sentiments exactly.

    Eric
     
    Eric G., Mar 11, 2007
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  16. irwell

    irwell Guest

    Will it affect your choice of gasoline?
    Why, after years of non-advertising by the major
    big name suppliers, are they starting up again?
    Is the Ethanol going to impact them?
     
    irwell, Mar 12, 2007
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  17. irwell

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Shell advertised this for years as did others. It does appear that they
    have renewed their campaign, but companies do that all the time so I
    don't read anything of significance into it.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Mar 12, 2007
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