Oil filter bulletin

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Gman, Sep 12, 2004.

  1. Gman

    Gman Guest

    This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
    warranty.


    The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
    to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
    Hyundai models.


    The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
    and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
    affected.


    To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
    Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
    Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
    be covered under warranty.
     
    Gman, Sep 12, 2004
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  2. Gman

    Joe Kaffe Guest

    Nothing new about the type of statement in the last paragraph. My question
    would be: How could a filter (or any other part) that meets or exceeds SAE
    standards as specified by Hyundai be the cause of damage?
     
    Joe Kaffe, Sep 13, 2004
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  3. Relax, it's just a B.S. disclaimer. Legally, they don't have a leg to
    stand on unless they can prove that an aftermarket filter or oil change
    caused a problem.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Sep 13, 2004
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  4. Gman

    hyundaitech Guest

    That's what they're talking about. A defective part that's not a factory
    part is of course not covered by the vehicle's warranty. Nor is the
    consequential damage.
     
    hyundaitech, Sep 13, 2004
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  5. Gman

    Gman Guest

    SO...techman...are you saying .. I need to use their filter to cover
    my butt???
     
    Gman, Sep 14, 2004
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  6. Gman

    James Guest

    I think the point is that IF the filter was defective AND not a Hyundai part
    THEN the warranty MIGHT be challenged. IF the filter IS a Hyundai part THEN
    it is all Hyundai so not an issue.
     
    James, Sep 14, 2004
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  7. Exactly. The question is: When was the last time that anyone had a
    defective oil filter? As with any product that's been made in the
    billions, I'm sure there are occasional bad ones, but I haven't seen one
    in 30 years of doing my own oil changes.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Sep 14, 2004
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  8. Gman

    Xiaoding Guest

    All that depends on what country your in.

    Xiaoding
     
    Xiaoding, Sep 14, 2004
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  9. Gman

    hyundaitech Guest

    I've heard about some issues with some Fram oil filters starving the engine
    for oil. I don't know whether they were defective, the wrong one for the
    car, or what the story was, but apparently it's happened enought that
    Hyundai has requested notification if these cars come into the dealer with
    this issue. This also isn't intended as a slam on Fram oil filters. I
    sometimes use them on my car and have never had a problem.
     
    hyundaitech, Sep 14, 2004
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  10. Gman

    hyundaitech Guest

    Right. The factory will stand behind any Hyundai part you purchase for 1
    year/12k miles or the recommended maintenance interval for that part,
    whichever comes first. And they'll cover consequential damage, too.
    That's much better than any aftermarket product I've ever heard of.
     
    hyundaitech, Sep 14, 2004
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  11. Gman

    hyundaitech Guest

    My posts were meant to cover the United States only. I don't know what
    policies/procedures are in any other country.
     
    hyundaitech, Sep 14, 2004
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  12. Gman

    star raider Guest

    The Hyundai filter has a ball value in it to prevent the engine from
    draining back down from the heads. So I'm told.
    Wik also makes this filter, confirmed by my dealer

    Another person had this statement about the filter/warranty

    Next time they quote you must use a Hyundai oil filter, tell them
    according to the Magnuson-Moss Act, if the use of a non-Hyundai part
    voids the warranty, the dealer is required to give the part to you to
    maintain the warrany. I am sure they will say it isn't required, but
    encouraged......IOW, you can use any part that is an OEM equivalent
    (i.e. Purolator, etc).

    Except from Act:
    While the Magnuson-Moss Act does not require manufacturers to provide
    a written warranty, it provides specific rules when one is provided.
    Among those provisions, FTC regulations state: "(c) No warrantor of a
    consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such
    product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any
    article or service (other than article or service provided without
    charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand,
    trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this
    subsection may be waived by the Commission if - ((1)the warrantor
    satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function
    properly only if the article or service so identified is used in
    connection with the warranted product, and (2) the Commission finds
    that such a waiver is in the public interest." ((42 U.S.C.2302(C))
    -
     
    star raider, Sep 15, 2004
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  13. Gman

    James Guest

    My Taurus SHO with high pressure and volume will NEVER get a Fram oil filter
    after I saw the cardboard end caps and the lack of anti-drain back
    mechanism. I'm not sold on any particular brand, only the specs and quality
    of construction.
     
    James, Sep 15, 2004
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  14. FWIW, it seems that the current consensus on Fram filters is that while
    they used to be a good product "way back when...", they're now basically
    junk. I won't use them. There are plenty of other filters with solid
    reputations available just as easily and at similar prices. For example,
    Purolator - or the rebadged house-brand filters they make for companies
    like Pep Boys - are well regarded.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Sep 15, 2004
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  15. "Brian Nystrom"

    Wix are quality filters too. Also sold as NAPA Gold.
     
    Fletis Humplebacker, Sep 16, 2004
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  16. Gman

    kjs Guest

    I'm learning first hand about using "aftermarket" oil filters. My mother
    went for her first oil change to a local garage she has used for 20 years.
    285 miles later she began to hear a tapping in the engine. Hyundai would
    not even look at the vehicle for 2 weeks because of the "aftermarket"
    filter and they have voided her warranty (so they think!). They are
    claiming that her bearings are severly scorred thus causing the engine to
    blow at 3147 miles. They want her to pay $10,000 to replace the engine.
    It's been at the dealership for 4 weeks!
     
    kjs, Sep 25, 2004
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  17. What caused the damage? It's possible that it was the filter, if the oil
    changer installed the wrong one (that's far more likely than a defective
    filter). Perhaps the drain plug wasn't installed properly and it leaked?
    Either way, the oil change facility is liable for the damages. If, on
    the other hand, it's an unrelated engine problem, Hyundai is bound to
    cover it under warranty.

    Either way, I'd get the car back before the dealer screws with it, as
    you will probably need to get it evaluated by an independent mechanic or
    two in case you need to take the oil changer or the Hyundai to court.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Sep 27, 2004
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