Switching between synthetic and regular oil

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by VicTek, Nov 17, 2006.

  1. VicTek

    VicTek Guest

    I've been using Castrol synthetic oil in my Elantra. When I went for an oil
    change recently and asked for regular oil I was told that since they had
    been putting synthetic in my car they would not switch back to regular oil.
    Would it in fact put the engine at risk to use regular oil?
     
    VicTek, Nov 17, 2006
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  2. VicTek

    Mike Marlow Guest

    No, but I'm curious why you would want to switch back after having used
    synthetic.
     
    Mike Marlow, Nov 17, 2006
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  3. VicTek

    Matt Whiting Guest

    No, no risk at all. Even though I don't do it, you can even mix regular
    and synthetic together and put it in your engine. Most oil companies
    now sell blends and mixing two quarts of each is just making a blend.
    Who told you they wouldn't put in conventional oil?


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 17, 2006
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  4. VicTek

    ws Guest

    If this site is to be believed,
    http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html (search for "Mixing
    Mineral and Synthetic oils"), switching between mineral and non-pure
    synthetic oils is no longer thought to cause damage to the engine.
     
    ws, Nov 17, 2006
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  5. VicTek

    VicTek Guest

    Wal-Mart - the employee said something along the lines of "if we switch the
    oil and you have engine problems Wal-Mart would be responsible".
     
    VicTek, Nov 17, 2006
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  6. VicTek

    VicTek Guest

    Only because cash is a little tight at the moment and I wanted to save
    twenty dollars. I prefer the synthetic and I will probably keep using it
    since the Wal-mart lube & oil package is still the best bang for the buck in
    my area. I don't like being fed misinformation though.
     
    VicTek, Nov 17, 2006
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  7. VicTek

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Wal-Mart, that explains it.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 17, 2006
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  8. VicTek

    VicTek Guest

    Yeah. Well, they must have heard about the McDonalds "coffee" suit.
    :^)
     
    VicTek, Nov 18, 2006
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    PMDR Guest

    Oh that's hilarious.

    If your car fell off the lift, got stolen, left the shop without an oil
    filter or pan bolt, filled the crankcase with canned milk instead of
    oil, or if any of a dozen other things happened to destroy the car or
    the engine, they'd totally deny responsibility.

    But swap synth for dino and suddenly they claim they'd be responsible
    for something?!?!

    hee hee
     
    PMDR, Nov 18, 2006
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    Mike Marlow Guest

    Well - that explains a great deal.
     
    Mike Marlow, Nov 18, 2006
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  11. VicTek

    Mike Marlow Guest

    And you are - being fed misinformation. I've never paid for an oil change
    so I don't know the difference in price between a synthetic change and a
    dino change. I understand cash being tight and if it is then at least walk
    away with the confidence that you're really not hurting your motor in any
    way by switching between the two.
     
    Mike Marlow, Nov 18, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    You mean there are places that will actually change your oil for you? :)


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 18, 2006
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  13. Last oil change I did myself was in 1991 when I bought a new Regal. It was
    a real PITA getting to the filter. I find it much easier to reach into my
    pocket for $25 than crawl under the car, especially in cold weather. I
    usually go during the work day when a local shop is not busy so even time
    and convenience is not a factor for me.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Nov 18, 2006
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  14. VicTek

    VicTek Guest

    Well, the difference is they would lose "deniability" if they agreed to
    switch the oil. On the other hand, I could have filled the crankcase with
    canned milk myself! Latte anyone? <g>
     
    VicTek, Nov 18, 2006
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  15. VicTek

    Matt Whiting Guest

    No doubt it is easier. I just like to get out and do something
    different after sitting at a computer all day. Also, it is a good time
    to inspect under the car and look at the oil for signs of serious engine
    distress. I also still split all of my own firewood by hand (8-10 face
    cords a year). It would be easier to buy it, but I enjoy getting out
    and doing things like that.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 18, 2006
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    Wayne Moses Guest

    Hello VicTek,

    V> Only because cash is a little tight at the moment and I wanted to
    V> save twenty dollars. I prefer the synthetic and I will probably keep
    V> using it since the Wal-mart lube & oil package is still the best bang
    V> for the buck in my area. I don't like being fed misinformation
    V> though.

    Vic,

    Here is a suggestion. Save twenty dollars *and* use synthetic oil at the
    same time.

    How? Change the oil yourself, and use Walmart 5W-30 Super Tech Synthetic
    Oil. I have been using it for over a year in my Tiburon and it is perfectly
    fine. It typically costs 1/2 as much as Mobil 1 which I used before (never
    used Castrol Synthetic) and for the driving I do and the conditions here,
    the Walmart product would be just fine. The important thing to remember is
    the API rating and the weight of the oil for the environmental conditions.
    Besides that, use good quality oil and change it often.

    Hyundai recommends every 7500 miles for my car under the "normal" schedule,
    but I change it every 5000 miles.

    Doing it yourself using this synthetic means you can get the oil change done
    for under $20.

    Regards,
    Wayne Mose
     
    Wayne Moses, Nov 18, 2006
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  17. VicTek

    VicTek Guest

    Here is a suggestion. Save twenty dollars *and* use synthetic oil at the
    I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the oil
    filter and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can get at the
    oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of front wheel ramps,
    find out where I can take the old oil for safe disposal/recycling...

    On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.
     
    VicTek, Nov 19, 2006
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  18. Here in CT, any place that sells oil must also take back an equivalent
    amount for recycling to what you bought . We can also have it picked up at
    the curb on trash day, but the idiots that wrote the regulation made a limit
    of two quarts per week.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Nov 19, 2006
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  19. VicTek

    Wayne Moses Guest

    Hello VicTek,

    V> I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the
    V> oil filter

    Right front of engine.

    V> and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can
    V> get at the oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of
    V> front wheel ramps,

    Ramps are no good whatsoever, since the car has to be level. You can jack
    up the RF wheel, and put a jack stand underneath for safety, enough to get
    at the oil drain plug (or valve -- see below in this message). then when
    that is off and the oil is draining, it should be lowered back to level.

    V> find out where I can take the old oil for safe
    V> disposal/recycling...

    My local AutoZone is pleased to take the waste oil, even when I bring several
    oil changes worth (which I let accumulate in the drain pan / container I
    have).


    V> On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.

    Not too bad though. I have a Fumoto valve installed on my car so there is
    no fiddling with the oil pan plug. See this page for more -- http://egt.gwebworks.com/garage.shtml

    Regards,
    Wayne Mose
     
    Wayne Moses, Nov 19, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4 on
    the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to weigh
    less than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my cars with
    them on the ground! :)


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 19, 2006
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