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Over $340.00 to replace a timing belt, do we need to start buying retro
cars where you can change your own fuel pump, plugs, alternator, and other
easy to get to parts? I'm thinking about it! Any comments?
 
in message: "Over $340.00 to replace a timing belt, do we
need to start buying retro cars where you can change your own fuel pump,
plugs, alternator, and other easy to get to parts? I'm thinking about it!
Any comments?"......

I think that, slowly but surely, auto makers are wising up about timing
belts. Hyundai, as they are redesigning their cars and engines, seems to be
going away from them.

Indeed, it makes you look at the area of maintenance in a whole different
way than you used to for cars. Same with spark plugs on the back side of a
transverse V6 engine.

Do I yearn for the old days?? Nah - too many things used to go wrong that
you would have to replace. That has gotten a lot better in many newer cars.

Tom Wenndt
 
taters2 said:
... do we need to start buying retro
cars where you can change your own fuel pump, plugs, alternator, and other
easy to get to parts? I'm thinking about it! Any comments?
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Well, I drive an old AMC Hornet, so that's pretty much the philosophy I
use for my own ride. On the other hand, the wife loves her 2006
Sonata. The dealer does all the maintenance on that one, there's not
much under the hood that I even recognize. (Fortunately that model does
not have timing belts, but it's a V6 so replacing the rear plugs is
going to be an expensive PITA when the time comes. In contrast,
replacing the spark plugs on the Hornet's inline six is a piece of
cake!)
 
Just hade the timing belt changed on my Accent. Wife has her 2 Elantra.
The cost to have this done is way out of line.
Been shopping for my 16 year old daughter for her car.
Top of my list is to ask What must be done to maintain the 100k warranty and
cost.
sales people reply just normal maintenance but can't give me a cost .
fun to see their red face when I mention the 300 for a timing belt every 60k
miles.
my next just might be a Ford.


--
Richard Ator
Natty Flatt USA

Always remember before you can become old and wise you must be young and
stupid.
I'm stuck somewhere in between.
 
Just hade the timing belt changed on my Accent. Wife has her 2 Elantra.
The cost to have this done is way out of line.
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What is "way out of line"?
Been shopping for my 16 year old daughter for her car.
Top of my list is to ask What must be done to maintain the 100k warranty and
cost.
sales people reply just normal maintenance but can't give me a cost .
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That's because sales people don't run the repair shop. Maybe you should
talk to the shop manager.
fun to see their red face when I mention the 300 for a timing belt every 60k
miles.
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$300 to replace a timing belt is pretty cheap - for any car so equipped. I
doubt you see many red faces.
 
Richard said:
Just hade the timing belt changed on my Accent. Wife has her 2 Elantra.
The cost to have this done is way out of line.
Been shopping for my 16 year old daughter for her car.
Top of my list is to ask What must be done to maintain the 100k warranty and
cost.
sales people reply just normal maintenance but can't give me a cost .
fun to see their red face when I mention the 300 for a timing belt every 60k
miles.
my next just might be a Ford.
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So, you'd by an inferior vehicle that's probably more expensive in order
to avoid $600 in maintenance costs over the lifetime of the vehicle
(180K miles assumed here)?
 
Been there, done that. I bought a 66 Mustang coupe 6 cyl in '98. It was in
great shape and I worked on it myself.

Issues:
Not fun to steer or brake
Stuff broke (starter, solenoid,brakes squealed,no shoulder harnesses and
they couldn't easily be installed, no airconditioning (pick the right
vintage car) carburator accelerator pump, points and timing, ...there was
always something.

Now I have, in it's place, a 1997 Impreza with 132K miles on it. (for 2
+years) Haven't touched it except for oil since I bought it and it is
comfortable and reliable. I'm not going back...(:}
 
Jim L said:
Been there, done that. I bought a 66 Mustang coupe 6 cyl in '98. It was in
great shape and I worked on it myself.

Issues:
Not fun to steer or brake
Stuff broke (starter, solenoid,brakes squealed,no shoulder harnesses and
they couldn't easily be installed, no airconditioning (pick the right
vintage car) carburator accelerator pump, points and timing, ...there was
always something.

Now I have, in it's place, a 1997 Impreza with 132K miles on it. (for 2
+years) Haven't touched it except for oil since I bought it and it is
comfortable and reliable. I'm not going back...(:}
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Holy cow - you're comparing a 1966 vintage vehicle with a 1997?
 
Yea, Tom, but I could change plugs in my car in minutes, change the points
and adjust the dwell in a few more minutes. Didn't have to jack the car up
to change the oil. :o) And still got 20+ miles per gallon on gas that cost
$0.25 a gallon. It wasn't ALL bad.
Except tires only lasted 15,000 miles, engines lasted only 50,000 and the
car rusted out in 3 years.... :o(
I still enjoyed being in control of my destiny instead of some guy in a
local shop. Sorry about that last comment, hyundaitech - I still love you.
:o)

Tom
 
Although not a Hyundai, we recently had the timing belt, balance shaft
belt, water pump, and accessory drive belts replaced on our son's 1996
Mistubishi Galant. Of course, many Hyundai engines were based upon
Mitsu designs. I wish we ONLY had to pay $300 to replace the belt,
plus the cost of the other belt(s) and water pump. Our cost was over
$800 for the service. The shop labor was $89/hour. Other quotes we
received locally were within +/- $75 of the same figure.

Now, if you want to talk about replacing timing chains on SOHC or DOHC
engines, I have some real horror stories to tell you - cost can be
greatly in excess of $1K. Obviously, replacement is not as often, but
they do need to be replaced occasionally.
 
in message: "Over $340.00 to replace a timing belt, do we
need to start buying retro cars where you can change your own fuel pump,
plugs, alternator, and other easy to get to parts? I'm thinking about it!
Any comments?"......

I think that, slowly but surely, auto makers are wising up about timing
belts. Hyundai, as they are redesigning their cars and engines, seems to be
going away from them.

Indeed, it makes you look at the area of maintenance in a whole different
way than you used to for cars. Same with spark plugs on the back side of a
transverse V6 engine.

Do I yearn for the old days?? Nah - too many things used to go wrong that
you would have to replace. That has gotten a lot better in many newer cars.

Tom Wenndt
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If retro bumper replacements were available, that is bumpers that can
stand a few bumps and jars with NO damage to the car, I believe there
would be a market for them Especially when the original bumper was
trashed by a small bump and had to be replaced. Many might choose to
replace it with a more durable one.

Old_Timer
 
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