timing belt

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by tonita, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. tonita

    tonita Guest

    I just had my car at the dealer's and they recommended that I have the
    timing belt changed. This is a fairly expensive service. Even though
    my car only has 43,000 miles on it, it is six years old. They
    recommend 60,000 miles or six years. I have to have the tire rod ends
    done immediately and then rear brakes so it will be almost impossible
    for me to afford this timing belt this month. I was just looking for
    opinions as to whether it would be safe to wait a month or so given
    the mileage. Thanks!
     
    tonita, Apr 8, 2009
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  2. tonita

    Ed Pawlowski Guest


    I'd wait. While I'd not go too long, a couple of months does not seem out
    of order with that low miles.

    What is wrong that the tie rod ends have to be done already? That seems
    premature. I'd get an opinion from a good local independent garage.
    Dealers tend to be higher priced for many service items and some service
    writers recommend things that may not be needed. They get a commission. .
     
    Ed Pawlowski, Apr 8, 2009
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  3. tonita

    John Guest

    You are right there. My sons Lantra has 220,000 k on the clock and front
    suspension is still solid. The rear brakes still have a reasonable lining
    thickness after that mileage. Is yours 6 years old re the belt?. The advice
    to get an independent assesment is spot on.
    John
     
    John, Apr 8, 2009
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  4. tonita

    Mike Marlow Guest

    I'd have someone else look at your frontend. 43,000 miles is very early for
    tie rods to be wearing out.
     
    Mike Marlow, Apr 8, 2009
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  5. tonita

    tonita Guest

    When I had the oil changed, they told me there that the right tie rod
    end was loose. They gave me a much higher price than the dealer.
    Then the dealer told me I need both and should change the timing belt
    as well. The brakes I probably can get a cheaper price somewhere
    else. But, if both places remarked on the tie rod ends, what else can
    I do? I'd be too afraid to let it go. I have to say, I was a bit
    surprised given the low mileage. I didn't think I would have to worry
    about it for a while yet.
     
    tonita, Apr 8, 2009
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  6. tonita

    Victek Guest

    I just had my car at the dealer's and they recommended that I have the
    I'm curious about the six year recommendation for the timing belt. I would
    think wear & tear on the belt would be mostly reflected in mileage. It may
    be necessary to change it to stay in compliance with the warranty, but is it
    necessary in terms of actual wear?
     
    Victek, Apr 8, 2009
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  7. Rubber and plastics become brittle over time. There is now a recommendation
    to change tires after some number of years no matter how much tread they
    have on them. Exposure to UV speeds up the drying process.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Apr 8, 2009
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    631grant Guest

    Don't forget that YOU mentioned it to the dealer and that's like dangling a
    carrot in front of a rabbit. They, of course, would tell you 'Absolutely,
    they are shot'. I'd still take it to someone you think you can trust.
     
    631grant, Apr 8, 2009
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  9. tonita

    631grant Guest

    AND it's not just the tie rod ends. As soon as you get that done, they'll
    remind you that you need a front end alignment, which you do it you replace
    them. There goes another $50 or more.
     
    631grant, Apr 8, 2009
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  10. tonita

    Voyager Guest

    I would not wait too long. A timing belt is made of rubber/polymer with
    reinforcing fibers that are polymer also. Materials such as this
    deteriorate as much from time as from mileage. Think of tires that have
    been around for 6-10 years. They almost always lose resilient, develop
    cracks and checks, etc. The same goes for the timing belt.

    Will it fail next week or next month? Probably not, but the point is
    there is no easy way to know in advance and on many engines are of an
    "interference" design where you have expensive parts contacting at high
    speed if the cam and crankshaft get out of synch. I don't know what
    model you have, but if it has an interference engine and the belt breaks
    .... well, if you thought a belt replacement was expensive...

    Matt
     
    Voyager, Apr 9, 2009
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  11. tonita

    Voyager Guest

    You think wrong. Think of what the belt is made from...
     
    Voyager, Apr 9, 2009
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    Irwell Guest

    If you are a member of the AAA try going to their auto analysing
    specialist.
     
    Irwell, Apr 9, 2009
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  13. tonita

    The Henchman Guest

    Would heavy use of an A/C prematurely wear a belt or is that just silly
    thinking?
     
    The Henchman, Apr 12, 2009
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  14. tonita

    The Henchman Guest

    I'm late to this thread but why tie rods wear out so early? Do you drive
    back roads or country/rural roads alot? Do you hit potholes or speedbumbs
    way too fast?
     
    The Henchman, Apr 12, 2009
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  15. tonita

    Ed Pawlowski Guest


    It may put a bit more load on the serpentine belt or whatever belt drives
    the AC compressor, but should have no effect on the timing belt. That just
    drives the cam shaft.
     
    Ed Pawlowski, Apr 12, 2009
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  16. tonita

    tonita Guest

    I was asking myself the same question. I guess, even though the car
    has low mileage, it is 6 years old. I've only had the car just about
    a year and put 14,000 miles on it and I'm very careful, the only
    driver. I guess they just don't make think like they used to?? I've
    already had the work done and next are the back brakes which they tell
    me are almost worn down. I'll worry about the belts next month I
    guess and I hope that's it for a while.
     
    tonita, Apr 12, 2009
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  17. tonita

    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    I've
    already had the work done and next are the back brakes which they tell
    me are almost worn down. I'll worry about the belts next month I
    guess and I hope that's it for a while.

    ************************************************

    Brakes at 43,000 is not uncommon. Brakes depends on the type of driving you
    do. When I lived in Philadelphia, 20,000 miles was considered a lot of miles
    for me. Lots of traffic lights and stop signs. Now. 50,000+ is the norm
    as I can drive to work 24 miles and hit the brakes maybe six times if I
    catch the lights right. .
     
    Ed Pawlowski, Apr 13, 2009
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  18. tonita

    Voyager Guest

    I don't know of any engine that uses the timing belt to drive
    accessories, but I'm sure some exist. Typically, the accessories are
    driven by a separate serpentine belt that is exposed, whereas the timing
    belt is typically behind a cover. So, in general, using the AC would
    have little affect on the timing belt.

    Matt
     
    Voyager, Apr 13, 2009
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  19. tonita

    631grant Guest

    FYI, the timing belt on a VW Jetta also drives the oil pump and distributor
    so other engines may drive other items but I wouldn't think they would drive
    accessories.
     
    631grant, Apr 15, 2009
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