Weak battery?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by V. Grovestine, Oct 21, 2003.

  1. Folks,

    Over the past couple weeks, our car (1998 Hyundai Accent) has been left
    outside through a couple rather cool nights (0-5 Celcius). This is contrary
    to being parked in our apartment building's heated (~20C) underground lot as
    is the norm.

    The past few starts haven't been as strong as usual. Yesterday, as my wife
    turned the key to return home from shopping, the car wouldn't start at all.
    Dash lights, clock, radio and headlights all ran fine, however. When the
    ignition was turned on, the starter engages and then just pulls itself down to
    a stop--taking power to the dash lights, etc. with it.

    She called for a boost, got the car started, drove home, and left it idling
    for about 20 minutes to bring up the battery charge. A couple hours later, I
    tried to start the car myself and it did start--No doubt thanks to the idle
    time earlier. (Thus I'm pretty sure the alternator can be ruled out.)

    This morning, I tried to start the car again without success. Same symptoms
    that the wife experience yesterday.

    Given that the starter tries to turn the engine over, that there is enough
    power to run accessories, and that a boost will start the car, I'm left to
    conclude that the battery is due for replacement. (Or so similar experiences
    in my days of radio control modelling have taught me: Battery packs can lose
    their ability to hold a peak charge with age.)

    Are there any quick tests I can do to confirm, or rule out, the weak
    battery theory? I presume with a volt-meter across the battery leads, that
    the voltage drop between "at rest" and with the starter engaged readings
    should provide some information.

    I haven't ruled out a loose connection somewhere either. Are there any
    trouble spots I should take a look at besides the obvious, being the battery
    leads?

    Tkx in advance,

    --Vincent G.
     
    V. Grovestine, Oct 21, 2003
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  2. V. Grovestine

    Jim Vatunz Guest

    it doesn't sound like a loose connection. do Hyundais ever get those?
    i'm starting to think they're the most reliable car on the road.
    the battery's 5 years old and you're in a part of the world that's
    heading towards winter. a battery that's starting to fail will become
    obvious in cold weather.
    i'd be 99% sure that replacing the battery will be warranted so you
    could either just buy one from the cheapest place or get an auto
    electrician to check it and then replace it at a higher price.

    For the latest weather where i am click
    http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/
     
    Jim Vatunz, Oct 21, 2003
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    PC Guest

    Average life of a new car battery is 3 - 5 years. If you are on the
    5th year, you are running on empty. IMHO
     
    PC, Oct 22, 2003
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  4. V. Grovestine

    Lon Stowell Guest

    Approximately 10/21/03 08:19, V. Grovestine uttered for posterity:

    Turning over a cold engine takes hundreds of amps. The next highest
    load on a battery is probably the 20-30 amps max for the heater blower
    so there is a bit of a disconnect in power requirements.

    Worse, many batteries are constructed such that they fail very very
    ungracefully. Work fine right up until they give a bit of trouble,
    then bang, can't even light a weak bulb any more.

    One thing to make sure of is that you have a 5W30 or 10W30 type
    engine oil, as the oil gets surpringly thick at cold temps and
    makes the battery's job more difficult. However, symptoms of
    wrong oil are usually that the engine will fire, but immediately
    die.
    Yup. If the battery is more than a couple years old, just swap it.
    Most battery sales places can make a better check that involves
    actually putting a load on the battery to avoid a skin charge
    looking like a good battery when it ain't.
    Make sure they are clean and very very very tight.

    The other places would be at the starter itself and also the
    main ground from the battery to the body as well as from the
    starter to the body. These all need to be extremely clean
    and tight to be able to carry starting current.
     
    Lon Stowell, Oct 22, 2003
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  5. V. Grovestine

    Gnekker Guest

    I agree with other coments, only one thing I would like to add: If you want
    your new battery to last longer, renew your alternator too: two bearings,
    new brushes and smoothened rings on the rotor can make miracle here...
     
    Gnekker, Nov 21, 2003
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