whats with the Hyundai web site???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dan K, Jun 15, 2005.

  1. Dan K

    Dan K Guest

    When I try and go to:
    http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/default.asp

    I get vectored off to :
    http://www.hmaservice.com/authenticator/login?returnAddress=http://www
    ..hmaservice.com%3A80%2Fwebtech%2Fdefault.asp

    where they ask for a logon name/password. When I tried to open an account
    they said they would email me my user name and password but it never came.
    Now when I went back to the logon page I noticed that they are implying that
    I should be a dealer or a technician to access this website. Anybody know
    whats going on? I thought they had a pretty good web site, it would be a
    shame if it changes for the worse.

    Dan
     
    Dan K, Jun 15, 2005
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  2. Dan K

    sbiddle Guest

    I went through the same thing with the Hyundai website. The fix is to go
    the the site and click on the 'forgot password'. Then they e-mail you the
    password and your all set. The only thing I can't figure out is how to
    change the password to something I can remember. Good Luck!
     
    sbiddle, Jun 15, 2005
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  3. Dan K

    hyundaitech Guest

    I definitely like your idea.

    The info I have from Hyundai is that the site is still intended to be
    accessible to the public, but that they will be monitoring use.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 15, 2005
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  4. Dan K

    hyundaitech Guest

    I definitely like your idea.

    The info I have from Hyundai is that the site is still intended to be
    accessible to the public, but that they will be monitoring use.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 15, 2005
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  5. Dan K

    sbiddle Guest

    Its a fantastic website and I hope they keep it up. I noticed that KIA has
    very recently restricted their (very similar) website by incorporating a
    pay as you go system. My belief is that if you sell the car, service
    information should be available free of charge to keep it on the road. So
    far Hyundai has kept to that.
     
    sbiddle, Jun 15, 2005
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  6. Dan K

    hyundaitech Guest

    Here's what I came up with for Kia that seems to require no info to view
    service info:
    http://www.kiatechinfo.com/default.aspx

    I certainly hope Hyundai doesn't convert to a pay site. But since Hyundai
    owns Kia, I see the pay-as-you-go as a predictor of what may be down the
    road for Hyundai.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 15, 2005
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  7. Dan K

    hyundaitech Guest

    Okay. Scratch the Kia website idea. I apparently came in through a back
    door I was able to open with a password from another site. Definitely
    sucks that it's not available for all for free.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 15, 2005
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  8. Dan K

    Joe Kaffe Guest

    You're probably right, but I sure hope they think it through with a long
    range view rather that the short range. This is one of those things that
    customers love, whether they ever use it or not! It says, "We care about our
    vehicles, and we care about you, our customers."

    In general, customers feel at the mercy of the auto industry. The vast
    majority dread taking their vehicles for servicing. Most of us have to take
    the word of someone we don't trust in the first place. Anything that allows
    a consumer to feel somewhat knowledgable, and thus a bit more in control of
    the situation, is good. Even if that feeling is not justified in fact!
     
    Joe Kaffe, Jun 16, 2005
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  9. I think that it's important to register our concerns with the company.
    There's a tendency for some companies to try to restrict all servicing
    to their own dealer network. Hyundai servicing is done more by the
    dealers than other companies' for the simple reason of the long warranty.

    Also, as a Korean corporation that's come to the US relatively recently,
    there may be certain cultural differences that must be explained
    repeatedly in order for the parent executives to get the hang of
    satisfying us. I've seen other Korean firms that employed very strange
    practices when viewed through American eyes -- and seemed really bizarre
    to their own employees (Inkel Corporation gave their staff toothbrushes
    instead of bonuses one Christmas).

    To me, having the shop manual on the web is a strong selling point for
    the brand, and they should be made aware of this. Like, "I want you to
    know that I'm so happy that you offer your shop manual freely to
    everyone on the web that when I buy my next car, it's going to be a
    Hyundai. I'm so used to going to your site for information that I can't
    consider buying my next car from a manufacturer who doesn't offer this
    valuable free service to their customers."

    Now, to another matter: one major shortcoming with Hyundai is the lack
    of drive cycle information available to anyone. I've been able to get my
    hands on one set of gargantuan "all-purpose" drive cycles -- they are
    insane for use anywhere but on a controlled test track. And this was
    only available through an aftermarket source. Other car makers freely
    disseminate individual drive cycles, for specific years, specific
    models, and specific control systems.

    Hyundai's huge single all-purpose multi-year pair of cycles impressed me
    as being so dangerous to carry out on public roads that I decided to
    withold the information rather than to post it here and have someone
    kill themselves trying to actually do them.

    Drive cycles are used to set and test computer routines -- software
    built into your car -- that are called "monitors" or "readiness
    monitors." The completion of these routines are checked in smog testing;
    here in California, if a car hasn't completed enough of these monitors,
    the car will be failed in a smog test. In other words, keeping the
    consumer in the dark can be costly and a true hassle. Two of my monitors
    have not completed; it's been this way for months. Yet, additional
    monitors are shown complete -- monitors that should depend on the
    incomplete ones in order to be able to finish themselves! I'm sure in
    the dark. It doesn't make sense, but under the state law, the condition
    is actually legal.

    For this reason,I feel that we need for Hyundai to get on the stick and
    to prepare and freely release drive cycles that conform to what's
    standard in the rest of the industry. It may take a lot of prodding...

    Please forgive me if I decide to repost this part of the message as a
    new topic.

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Jun 16, 2005
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  10. Dan K

    batty54 Guest

    To me, having the shop manual on the web is a strong selling point for

    I tried the previous link but only came up with a training schedule. Where
    is this one?
    Thanks
     
    batty54, Jun 16, 2005
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