Why aren't gas prices dropping?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Gordo, Jun 27, 2003.

  1. Gordo

    Gordo Guest

    Why aren't fuel prices dropping like expected? There is a web site that
    shows a graph of fuel prices since 1995. I thought after the war we would
    see a decrease, but regular gas is up 10 cents a gallon from the same time
    last year. See it at www.storydata.com
     
    Gordo, Jun 27, 2003
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  2. Gordo

    Miles Guest

    The war had little to do with the price of oil on the world market.
    Seasonal summer increases in gas prices are normal. Late spring we saw
    prices come back down considerably here. I did notice that in large
    cities the price of gas is much higher than in remote towns.
    Traditionally the opposite is true. I expect prices to drop some by
    september as demand drops.
     
    Miles, Jun 27, 2003
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  3. Gordo

    donovan n Guest

    Gas prices have little to do with real-world conditions, much like the
    stock market, prices have more to do with the perception of value.

    --donovan
     
    donovan n, Jun 28, 2003
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  4. One would have thought so, especially with Iraq having become the 51st
    State of the Union.
     
    Buckshot LeFunk, Jun 28, 2003
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    pdb Guest

    We have noticed for a long time that gas prices on the East side of town
    (blue collar neighborhods) are quite a bit cheaper than same brands on the
    west side (yuppy neighborhoods). Only a mile or two apart.
    FWIW
     
    pdb, Jul 2, 2003
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  6. Gordo

    Alfred B Guest

    Competition...or lack thereof.

    I may be slightly exaggerating here, but when you think about who has
    bought out who as of late, there's really only a handful or two of oil
    companies left.

    Exxon/Mobil
    BP/Amoco
    Texaco/Chevron/Phillips

    That almost covers it right there.
     
    Alfred B, Jul 3, 2003
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  7. Just be thankful you're not in the UK

    Currently between GBP 3.30 and GBP 3.50 for unleaded
     
    The Mary Millington Experience, Jul 3, 2003
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    Steven Guest

    In a word.... Greed.

    S.

     
    Steven, Jul 6, 2003
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    Valley Guest

    Petroleum prices and the prices of distillates such as gas have risen in the
    states due to desperately low natural gas inventories. When one energy
    market gets expensive, it tends to effect the price of other energy
    commodities. Fed Chairman Greenspan has pointed to the natural gas situation
    as a potential pitfall in economic recovery.

    Another reason why gas is so expensive right now is simply that the price of
    crude on the open market has reflected the uncertainty of the political
    situations in the various OPEC countries. Anyhow, the price of gas could
    certainly be higher. I wouldn't call the prices we're seeing here in the
    Pacific Northwest unreasonable, though I'm sure that SUV drivers are pining
    for the 'good ol' days'.
     
    Valley, Aug 12, 2003
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    PG Guest

     
    PG, Aug 12, 2003
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    Philip King Guest

    Don't believe everything the TV tells you. Oil prices are based on supply
    and demand. Guess who is creating the extra demand right now? China, to
    everyone's surprise!

    Check the facts for yourself, and don't rely on the talking heads on TV
    because they just repeat what they have been told by the anal-ists.

    Live Long & Prosper
    Phil
     
    Philip King, Aug 13, 2003
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    john adams Guest

    And the fact that Iraq isn't pumping out its black
    juices as expected. Notice as the US went in there
    was a short term drop, probably in correlation
    to some anticpation of stabalizing the Middle East
    region, which is now proving to have been
    incorrect.
     
    john adams, Aug 13, 2003
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  13. Try the UK prices, USD 1.20 per litre of unleaded and going up again
    shortly, we are taxed at a rate of about 400% on fuel. And the government
    say it's to try and discourage people from using their cars and forcing them
    onto public transport. Despite the fact the public transport in the UK is
    crap and has been lacking investment for years.

    Real reason (IMO) is that the government know that people will continue to
    use their vehicles and it's another way of taxing us on top of the Road Tax
    we pay them aswell.

    Bugger, I feel better now.


    Paul
     
    The Mary Millington Experience, Aug 13, 2003
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    dforant1 Guest

    that's liberalism for you

     
    dforant1, Aug 13, 2003
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  15. You should have you tried to get gas in the last 2 weeks here in Phoenix you
    would have been willing to pay just about any price. Gas Stations all out of
    gas those that had gas were charging anywhere up to $ 5.00 per gallon. What
    a bunch of crooks taking advantage of the public.

    Gary
     
    Gary J Bevans, Aug 26, 2003
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    pookeybrain Guest

    If our elected officials down here in Florida mandated a certain blend of
    gasoline different from the rest of the country we'd probably be paying
    $5.00 a gallon too.
     
    pookeybrain, Aug 26, 2003
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  17. Gas at $5 a gallon is a signal that means "don't buy gas right now if
    you don't need it." Because people who can wait are given incentive to
    do so by the price, there is more gas left for people who actually do
    need it immediately.

    I'm sure that doesn't make the people who paid $5 a gallon for gas any
    happier, but it doesn't make the gas station owners crooks. They're
    just trying to maximize their utility, same as you.
     
    Jerry Kindall, Aug 26, 2003
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  18. Yah, we got hit in Northern Nevada for $ 1.99 a Gal and we get our gas
    from Northern California refineries. As long as we have ex-oil company
    executives running the White house and laying down for large energy
    companies, they're going to hit us as hard as they can. Of course after a
    while this high pricing will seem normal. In 1974 I ran a couple Shell
    Stations and was selling gas for $.49 a gal and thought it was high.

    Dale P.........
     
    dale_peterson, Aug 27, 2003
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    James Guest

    attachments.

    I disagree. Gasoline and oil is more in the nature of a public resource,
    both in terms of the public financing of drilling via tax laws etc., and the
    limited and diminishing state of the resource. the very dependence of us all
    upon the resource for daily activities as well as national defense and stuff
    makes the whole thing more like public utilities than anything else. A
    reasonable profit is, well, reasonable. The need for some oversight is all
    too obvious.
     
    James, Aug 27, 2003
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    Nikoli Yetti Guest

    I don't know where he labeled himself in the post, but I tend to agree with
    him.
     
    Nikoli Yetti, Aug 27, 2003
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