03 Sonata Timing Belt Replacement

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How much should I expect to be charged. I have a 2003 V6 GL Sonata. Called
dealer they quoted me for the 60k maintenance which is : 500.00 for timing
belt replacement-625.00 tune up- 550.00 water pump replacement. Id it wise
to call Midas and ask what they charge? Dealer told me not to do that
because they don't use Hyundai product hence will void remainder of my
warranty. My sad story is I just graduated from graduate school having no
luck getting a job. Living off credit cards for the past 2 months. So money
right now is pretty tight. Any advice my dear Hyundai buddies
 
sonata32 said:
How much should I expect to be charged. I have a 2003 V6 GL Sonata.
Called dealer they quoted me for the 60k maintenance which is :
500.00 for timing belt replacement-625.00 tune up- 550.00 water pump
replacement. Id it wise to call Midas and ask what they charge?
Dealer told me not to do that because they don't use Hyundai product
hence will void remainder of my warranty. My sad story is I just
graduated from graduate school having no luck getting a job. Living
off credit cards for the past 2 months. So money right now is pretty
tight. Any advice my dear Hyundai buddies
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Well, changing the water pump at 60K is entirely optional. Odds are
you'll make it to 120K or will have traded the car before the water
pump gives you any trouble.

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$625 for a tune up seems a more than a bit excessive. Are you sure some
other repairs aren't folded into that cost?

Jon
 
Are you the original owner? If so, don't replace the water pump. It's
warranted for 10 years/100k miles.

If you're the original owner, you do have some incentive to install a
factory belt. Hyundai will continue to cover it for the 10 year/100k mile
period as long as you replace the belt with a Hyundai part. There's
nothing wrong with calling Midas (or anywhere else) and asking them if
they'd do the work using a factory belt (or all factory parts).
Understand they'll probably charge more due to their higher cost, but if
everything else is reasonable, it may be a good alternative. But also
consider whether they are competent to do the job. I wouldn't think the
guys at Midas do a lot of timing belts. This one isn't particularly
tricky, so someone who's competent and reasonably knowledgeable should be
able to do a good job. I would also have the timing belt tensioner
replaced with the timing belt. It's only covered by the 5/60 warranty and
its failure can cause the same consequences as a failed timing belt.

Replacing the spark plugs on your car will require removing the plenum.
Again, you'll want to make sure you have someone competent and
knowledgeable doing the work. You'll also want to make sure they use
quality parts, because you don't want to have to pay to have the plugs
replaced again in a relatively short period of time. You may also want to
consider having the plug wires replaced (with preferably OEM parts) while
the plenum is off.
 
sonata32 said:
How much should I expect to be charged. I have a 2003 V6 GL Sonata. Called
dealer they quoted me for the 60k maintenance which is : 500.00 for timing
belt replacement-625.00 tune up- 550.00 water pump replacement. Id it wise
to call Midas and ask what they charge? Dealer told me not to do that
because they don't use Hyundai product hence will void remainder of my
warranty. My sad story is I just graduated from graduate school having no
luck getting a job. Living off credit cards for the past 2 months. So money
right now is pretty tight. Any advice my dear Hyundai buddies
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Do you own any basic tools? Even if you don't, you can do the tune up
work yourself (plugs, wires, oil change, air filter change, etc.) and
save more than the cost of buying a few tools. Once you own them, tools
are like money in the bank, as they'll save you more every time you use
them. As long as you document what you've done in the maintenance log
that came with the car, you're covered under warranty. The log also
tells you everything that needs to be done @ 60K miles. If money is
tight, you can put off the timing belt change for a little while if
necessary. It's unlikely to fail and as long as you get it done within a
few K's of 60K miles, Hyundai will be happy. I wouldn't bother with the
water pump unless there is an obvious problem with it.

For instructions, part numbers and other info about your car, go to:

http://www.hmaservice.com

You need to register first (it's free), then you can access Hyundai
service manuals and check parts prices online. You can even order parts
and accessories online though your local dealer. BTW, the site only
works with Internet Explorer.

I would hesitate to have the service done at any of the larger chains,
as the quality of the work you'll receive is anyone's guess. Those
places typically have high employee turnover and good mechanics don't
want to work at them. Better to check with friends to find a smaller,
reputable shop that's well established. Tell them you want them to use
Hyundai parts (a good shop will understand why) or buy the parts
yourself and drop them off with the car.

What your dealer told you about parts is not entirely true. Only the
timing belt and water pump (if you decide to do it) need to be Hyundai
parts to keep your warranty in effect. Plugs, wires, filters, etc. can
be aftermarket parts without have ANY effect on your warranty (that's
federal law). Just use good filters like Purolator and stay away from
junk like Fram. NGK plugs and wires are always a good bet.

Now sounds like an ideal time for you to learn some DIY skills. Best of
luck!
 
$625 for a tuneup??? I don't think the manual calls for more than spark
plugs, doesn't it? I doubt if it calls for a water pump replacement.
You're being majorly ripped off.
 
Thanks for all who replied to my post. I am the original owner of my sonata.
I commute 100 miles a day to school thats why my mileage is so high. I have
never missed an oil change and I replaced transmission oil. I guess I will
just do the belt for now. Last night when I went to start my car it would
not want to start. When I turned the key, the ignition was turning but it
would not catch. The battery is fine and the starter seems to be okay. I let
it sit for 2 minutes and turned the key it final grabbed and started after a
few turns. The car was making a "put" noise and wanted to stall but I gave
it gas and it stayed running. I noticed a odd smelling white smoke coming
out of the exhaust. This was the first time ever this had happened. The
weather here in Connecticut has been weird where the temps would go from
70's to 30's in a matter of 6 hours. Could it be condensation in the gas
line? Also, when are the tired needed to be changed. My car came with
Michelin tires which I noticed are really $$$ is there another good tire out
there someone can recommend.
Thanks,
Jeff
 
Regarding the problem with starting the car, could be anything, even a weak
battery.

As far as the tires, go to a reputable tire store near you and explain to
them you'd like some inexpensive tires of reasonable quality. Most tire
stores have house brand tires, that while not Michelins, compete well on
quality with major tire brands for a fraction of the price.
 
When making a decision on the timing belt remember that the 60,000 mile
recomendation by Hyundai (that needs to be done to maintain the warrenty) is
a statistical thing. So few belts fail before 60,000 AND 5 years that
Hyundai deems it almost insignificant and will therefore pay to have
catastropic engine failure fixed. A key here (and in my case) is time. If
you put 60,000 miles on in 2 years, the timing belt is MUCH less likely to
fail than if you take 5 years to do it. 3 extra years of sitting outside in
weather have got to be significant in terms of belt wear, as do all the
extra starts and warm-ups. For me, with a 2002 XG350 with 67000 miles, I
have decided to go to 90,000 miles before doing the timing belt which should
put me in the 5-6 year time frame. Of coarse, I bought mine used so I have
no 10/100 warrenty to add in to the equation.

Dan
 
Today, I was quoted $800 to replace the belt in Des Moines. I called
around and the going rate seems to be between $400 and $550 in other
midwest cities. I am taking it to Council Bluffs (near Omaha) to have
it done. I am not pleased with the Des Moines quote.
 
As far as the tires, go to a reputable tire store near you and explain to
them you'd like some inexpensive tires of reasonable quality. Most tire
stores have house brand tires, that while not Michelins, compete well on
quality with major tire brands for a fraction of the price.
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Echo this. I have had really good luck with PepBoys Futura tires. They're
made by Cooper and they are a fraction of the price of the major brands.
I've always gotten at least the advertised mileage out of them and have been
very satisfied with the tire performance in rain and snow. I'm in upstate
NY and we get snow! A tire that will handle long winters, hard pack snow,
etc. is very important to me. They run quite and they hold up very well -
no history of broken cords, sidewall failures, etc. Half the price of
Michelin.
 
Mike said:
I'm in upstate
NY and we get snow! A tire that will handle long winters, hard pack snow,
etc. is very important to me.
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If that's the case, why don't you get snow tires for the winter? The
difference in performance in snow and ice vs. ANY "all season" tire is
dramatic.
 
Today, I was quoted $800 to replace the belt in Des Moines. I called
around and the going rate seems to be between $400 and $550 in other
midwest cities. I am taking it to Council Bluffs (near Omaha) to have
it done. I am not pleased with the Des Moines quote.
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Rather than making a long drive, have you checked around to find a good
independent shop in your area? This work does not have to be done by a
Hyundai dealer, only with Hyundai parts.
 
Brian Nystrom said:
If that's the case, why don't you get snow tires for the winter? The
difference in performance in snow and ice vs. ANY "all season" tire is
dramatic.
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Fair question. The reason is that I don't need them. Good radials do the
job just fine. I haven't had a snow tire on a car in over 30 years.
 
Mike said:
Fair question. The reason is that I don't need them. Good radials do the
job just fine. I haven't had a snow tire on a car in over 30 years.
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You don't know what you're missing.
 
Brian Nystrom said:
You don't know what you're missing.
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I have a buddy that is in his car all day as an insurance appraiser and the
company pays for him to put snows on his fleet car. He loves them. I
suppose there have been a few times where they've been very beneficial to
him when he's had to plow his way in and out of driveways that hadn't been
cleared, but we do a lot of driving to and from the same places (often at
the same time) and there's been absolutely no difference in the way our
vehicles have handled normal winter road conditions. By normal, I mean
loose snow, hardpack, ice, etc. The stuff we normally encounter in a winter
around here. He swears by his snows though. Guess I can't argue with the
folks who like them, but like I said - I have just never had the need. I
suppose he could prove that he can get going better than I can with the more
aggressive tread, and does not have to be quite as gentle taking off as me,
but those types of benefits just don't matter that much to me. The
difference in performance with his Grand Prix with snows and my Regal with
all seasons is just pretty trivial. Now - my plow truck, that's a different
story. Lugs. Deep lugs. Lots deep lugs...
 
Mike said:
I have a buddy that is in his car all day as an insurance appraiser and the
company pays for him to put snows on his fleet car. He loves them. I
suppose there have been a few times where they've been very beneficial to
him when he's had to plow his way in and out of driveways that hadn't been
cleared, but we do a lot of driving to and from the same places (often at
the same time) and there's been absolutely no difference in the way our
vehicles have handled normal winter road conditions. By normal, I mean
loose snow, hardpack, ice, etc. The stuff we normally encounter in a winter
around here. He swears by his snows though. Guess I can't argue with the
folks who like them, but like I said - I have just never had the need. I
suppose he could prove that he can get going better than I can with the more
aggressive tread, and does not have to be quite as gentle taking off as me,
but those types of benefits just don't matter that much to me. The
difference in performance with his Grand Prix with snows and my Regal with
all seasons is just pretty trivial.
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Have you actually driven these vehicles back to back under the same
conditions? If not, how do you know what the difference is?
 
Brian Nystrom said:
Have you actually driven these vehicles back to back under the same
conditions? If not, how do you know what the difference is?
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Yeah - that's what I was trying to point out above. Besides that, I have
had snows many years ago. Many years ago. For my style of driving and the
cars I drive, I just don't see enough benefit to me. That's not a statement
that those who like them shouldn't, it's just a statement that I've been
there, done that and I'm fine with my all season radials.
 
uhh theres been many tests done in scandinavia etc of the benefits of proper
winter tires...
I know fom experience, I switch to winters every year..
have you ever walked on ice with runners with rubber that goes hard? same
principal.
This moring i opened our door, snow up to my kness.
everyone with all seasons in our apt block were stuck the min they backed
out..
i value my life, for the sake of my family,my man,my nieces and nephews.
Thats far worth more than what id save by not going to proper tires to suit
the conditions.
im not hear to argue the point, just wanted to state mine.
 
Jody said:
uhh theres been many tests done in scandinavia etc of the benefits of proper
winter tires...
I know fom experience, I switch to winters every year..
have you ever walked on ice with runners with rubber that goes hard? same
principal.
This moring i opened our door, snow up to my kness.
everyone with all seasons in our apt block were stuck the min they backed
out..
i value my life, for the sake of my family,my man,my nieces and nephews.
Thats far worth more than what id save by not going to proper tires to suit
the conditions.
im not hear to argue the point, just wanted to state mine.
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That's fair - and I'm only stating mine as well. I live in Central NY where
we get approximately 300" of snow per year. I know well what driving in
snow is all about. Yes - we get snow up to our knees also. And... I have
driven through it as well. I don't try to convince people that they don't
need snow tires, I simply state that I don't use them and I have no
problems. I don't get stuck, I don't run off the road and I don't lose
control of my car. My '98 Regal has 150,000 miles on it so I don't sit at
home and not put on any miles either. We have 5 vehicles registered in my
family. Only my truck, which plows snow, has anything more than all season
radials in good condition. All four of the vehicles with ASR's navigate the
winters here just fine. Like you, I know from experience.
 
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