2002 Sonata revisited

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by Plague Boy, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. Plague Boy

    Plague Boy Guest

    Hello again-

    Well, I really need to do something with the car, which has sat
    in my driveway for almost a year now. It's the 2.7 V6 and it has
    three issues-

    1. the brakes are noisy. I suspect sticky calipers. Although I've
    always done my own brake work and lived to tell about it, I may
    pay somebody to do it because of time constraints. I'd like to
    get all 4 discs and pad sets repaired, and get the caliper slides
    lubed. Any suggestions? Oh, I may only drive the car once a week
    or so, as I can walk 1 mile to work. Since this will cause the
    rotors to rust, is there a better choice of rotors/pads to deal
    with this situation? If I have the calipers lubed will that fix
    the problem, or will I have to do this yearly, or is there
    better calipers I can buy, or....?

    2. At 102Kmi, it's overdue for the timing belt. Advice here was
    get the water pump done also. Are there idlers, springs or
    whatzits that should be replaced when the belt is done? Again, I
    could do it myself, but it looks more involved than I have time
    for right now.

    3. Check engine light is on with P0442 and P0455 small and large
    evap leak codes. Research indicates I might have to replace
    anything from the gas cap to the fuel tank. I'm willing to pay to
    get it fixed, but I don't want it to turn into one of these "I
    take it to the dealer and throw $300 at it every week" odysseys I
    keep reading about on usenet.

    Although I usually do my own work, I have a small independent
    shop that I take my car to for inspections. He's always been fair
    about inspecting the car, no "busy work" to run the inspection
    bill up. Any reason I shouldn't have this shop do the work?

    My other option is the Hyundai dealer that the car was bought
    from. As far as I know, they are OK. They quoted me $400 on the
    timing chain, and $200 additional to do the water pump at the
    same time. The MIL started at $90 for the diagnostic. :-(

    Thank you for reading and for any advice!
     
    Plague Boy, Aug 23, 2008
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  2. Plague Boy

    Mike Marlow Guest

    If you don't drive the car regularly you will always have noisey brakes.
    Rotors rust and pads set to them. Sliders bind a bit, even when properly
    lubed. Your best bet is to drive the car. Once a week should be fine,
    though they may be a bit noisey or they may pulse a bit from sitting for a
    week - no problem in that. If the pads are good now I would just drive the
    car a bit and see what comes from that. You may not have to invest anything
    in the brakes.
    Tensioner and water pump while you're in there.
    Was the CEL on while you were driving it or is it something that came on
    after the car sat for a year?
    Your choice. Shops save you time but cost you money - even when they are
    "cheap". How much money do you have?
    $400 is ok for the belt but they should only be charging you for the water
    pump - not any labor. They are in there already. Sub-$100 would be fair
    for the water pump added in to the estimate for the belt.
     
    Mike Marlow, Aug 23, 2008
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  3. Most common is the gas cap, about $10 or so.

    No brainer IMO. While "factory trained" mechanics may be more familiar with
    working on your particular model, you pay dearly for the privilege. If you
    have a trusted mechanic, stick with him.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Aug 23, 2008
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  4. Plague Boy

    hyundaitech Guest

    I'll agree with what's been said about points 1 and 2, but have a little t
    add on point number three.

    Make sure your gas cap is tight and secure and clear the check engin
    lamp. Under the hood, check the vacuum hose running between the purg
    control valve and the piping running to the back of the car. Could b
    leaking or broken. Once you know all that's okay, ride around and see i
    the lamp comes back.

    If you get either a P0455 or P0442 back, take the car to the dealer fo
    diagnosis. The dealer's scan tool has the capability of running the eva
    self-test, so the dealer should be able to tell immediately after repair
    whether the problem has been corrected. This capability also enables th
    technician to isolate various parts of the system while running the test
    allowing a process of elimination to locate the leak. Without thi
    capability, and I don't think it's available with nonfactory scanners
    evap diagnosis is greatly complicated
     
    hyundaitech, Aug 25, 2008
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  5. Plague Boy

    Plague Boy Guest

    hyundaitech wrote:
    BINGO! I have not had much time to really examine the car, but
    last Sunday I was looking under the hood and was tracing the
    hoses that came from the undercarriage to the engine compartment,
    and I noticed a rubber hose with a split in it. I presume it was
    the evap as it goes to a doohicky that then connects to the air
    intake by the TPS ( I guess).

    Drove the car about 120 miles and the evap test now says OK!

    Too bad I didn't spot it before replacing the gas cap with a
    NAPA cap, taking it to be inspected and paying (reluctantly) $60
    for their diagnosis, which was "you need a new gas cap". When I
    explained I *had* a new gas cap, they told me the NAPA cap
    wouldn't work and I had to go to the dealer, buy a 2 pack of gas
    caps, install one, and fortunately I spotted the split hose
    before I drove 120 miles trying to run the evap cycle.

    HT, thanks again for your input, and the recent advice on the
    rotors. And thanks to everybody else who replied, 'tis all
    appreciated!
     
    Plague Boy, Oct 11, 2008
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