Oil filter and sludge.

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What was the consensus on what type of oil filter
to use on a Hyaundai Elantra?

An article in today's paper was about engine damage due
to sludge on some makes of cars, even though the owners had
carried out the specified oil and filters changes.
 
irwell said:
What was the consensus on what type of oil filter
to use on a Hyaundai Elantra?
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I use Hyundai brand on my Sonata as I was able to buy a case mail order
for about what other brands cost locally. NAPA makes good filters as do
Purolater and others. I'd mainly stay away from the filters that cost
much less than $5, such as the low-end Fram and Wal-Mart generic brands
(Super Tech or something like that).

An article in today's paper was about engine damage due
to sludge on some makes of cars, even though the owners had
carried out the specified oil and filters changes.
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Sludge formation is not related to the oil filter.


Matt
 
I use Hyundai brand on my Sonata as I was able to buy a case mail order
for about what other brands cost locally. NAPA makes good filters as do
Purolater and others. I'd mainly stay away from the filters that cost
much less than $5, such as the low-end Fram and Wal-Mart generic brands
(Super Tech or something like that).



Sludge formation is not related to the oil filter.


Matt
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This from the article in the NY Times.

Alack of adequate oil changes is
the explanation for damage given
by Audi, Lexus, Saab, Toyota and
VW. Yet unlike Chrysler and
Dodge, those automakers have
formal compensation programs
for sludge damage, although in
some cases consumers must pro~
vide detailed, service records -
and in the case of Saab, must have
used oil filters sold only by the
company.
 
irwell said:
This from the article in the NY Times.

Alack of adequate oil changes is
the explanation for damage given
by Audi, Lexus, Saab, Toyota and
VW. Yet unlike Chrysler and
Dodge, those automakers have
formal compensation programs
for sludge damage, although in
some cases consumers must pro~
vide detailed, service records -
and in the case of Saab, must have
used oil filters sold only by the
company.
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Like I said, the oil filter isn't related to sludge. It may be related
to the engine warranty, but it has nothing to do with whether sludge
forms or not.

However, I'm pretty sure that the above is illegal anyway
(Magnusson-Morrison act if memory servers) so if you get a decent lawyer
it won't matter what brand of filter you used.


Matt
 
Like I said, the oil filter isn't related to sludge. It may be
related to the engine warranty, but it has nothing to do with whether
sludge forms or not.

However, I'm pretty sure that the above is illegal anyway
(Magnusson-Morrison act if memory servers) so if you get a decent
lawyer it won't matter what brand of filter you used.
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Actually, I don't believe it is illegal, but according to that act if
the manufacturer requires it, they must provide it for FREE.

I believe it was Ferrari, sometime in the last few years, required a
"special" oil for the Enzo. The dealer was charging some ridiculous
amount per quart, and the car needed something like 12 quarts per oil
change. One owner fought this in court (because Ferrari refused to
follow the act) and won. Ferrari now provides the oil for free.

Eric
 
Eric said:
Actually, I don't believe it is illegal, but according to that act if
the manufacturer requires it, they must provide it for FREE.

I believe it was Ferrari, sometime in the last few years, required a
"special" oil for the Enzo. The dealer was charging some ridiculous
amount per quart, and the car needed something like 12 quarts per oil
change. One owner fought this in court (because Ferrari refused to
follow the act) and won. Ferrari now provides the oil for free.
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Yes, I believe you are correct in that giving away required items will
keep one out of trouble with M-M.

Matt
 
Matt Whiting said:
Yes, I believe you are correct in that giving away required items will
keep one out of trouble with M-M.

Matt
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Wish I had know earlier. Instead of a Hyundai, I'd get me one of those
Fur-arees with free earl. Damn.
 
Wish I had know earlier. Instead of a Hyundai, I'd get me one of those
Fur-arees with free earl. Damn.
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Yeah, I guess after paying $1,000,000 for the Enzo, the guy didn't have
enough left for the oil :-)

Eric
 
Edwin said:
Wish I had know earlier. Instead of a Hyundai, I'd get me one of those
Fur-arees with free earl. Damn.
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Don't you know by now that nothing is free!

Matt
 
Don't you know by now that nothing is free!

Matt
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Have you noticed that some of the major gas suppliers
like Shell are putting out adverts warning about discount gas
being harmful? They even show valve stems with carbon deposits on
them.
Wonder if their profits are being challenged.
 
Have you noticed that some of the major gas suppliers
like Shell are putting out adverts warning about discount gas
being harmful? They even show valve stems with carbon deposits on
them.
Wonder if their profits are being challenged.
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And the price of Tea in China is up.

Eric
 
Yes, and???
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Will it affect your choice of gasoline?
Why, after years of non-advertising by the major
big name suppliers, are they starting up again?
Is the Ethanol going to impact them?
 
irwell said:
Will it affect your choice of gasoline?
Why, after years of non-advertising by the major
big name suppliers, are they starting up again?
Is the Ethanol going to impact them?
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Shell advertised this for years as did others. It does appear that they
have renewed their campaign, but companies do that all the time so I
don't read anything of significance into it.

Matt
 
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