Oil filter bulletin

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This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
warranty.


The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
Hyundai models.


The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
affected.


To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
be covered under warranty.
 
Gman said:
This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
warranty.


The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
Hyundai models.


The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
affected.


To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
be covered under warranty.

Nothing new about the type of statement in the last paragraph. My question
would be: How could a filter (or any other part) that meets or exceeds SAE
standards as specified by Hyundai be the cause of damage?
 
Relax, it's just a B.S. disclaimer. Legally, they don't have a leg to
stand on unless they can prove that an aftermarket filter or oil change
caused a problem.
 
That's what they're talking about. A defective part that's not a factory
part is of course not covered by the vehicle's warranty. Nor is the
consequential damage.
 
This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
warranty.


The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
Hyundai models.


The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
affected.


To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
be covered under warranty.
SO...techman...are you saying .. I need to use their filter to cover
my butt???
 
Gman said:
SO...techman...are you saying .. I need to use their filter to cover
my butt???

I think the point is that IF the filter was defective AND not a Hyundai part
THEN the warranty MIGHT be challenged. IF the filter IS a Hyundai part THEN
it is all Hyundai so not an issue.
 
hyundaitech said:
That's what they're talking about. A defective part that's not a factory
part is of course not covered by the vehicle's warranty. Nor is the
consequential damage.

Exactly. The question is: When was the last time that anyone had a
defective oil filter? As with any product that's been made in the
billions, I'm sure there are occasional bad ones, but I haven't seen one
in 30 years of doing my own oil changes.
 
I've heard about some issues with some Fram oil filters starving the engine
for oil. I don't know whether they were defective, the wrong one for the
car, or what the story was, but apparently it's happened enought that
Hyundai has requested notification if these cars come into the dealer with
this issue. This also isn't intended as a slam on Fram oil filters. I
sometimes use them on my car and have never had a problem.
 
Right. The factory will stand behind any Hyundai part you purchase for 1
year/12k miles or the recommended maintenance interval for that part,
whichever comes first. And they'll cover consequential damage, too.
That's much better than any aftermarket product I've ever heard of.
 
My posts were meant to cover the United States only. I don't know what
policies/procedures are in any other country.
 
The Hyundai filter has a ball value in it to prevent the engine from
draining back down from the heads. So I'm told.
Wik also makes this filter, confirmed by my dealer

Another person had this statement about the filter/warranty

Next time they quote you must use a Hyundai oil filter, tell them
according to the Magnuson-Moss Act, if the use of a non-Hyundai part
voids the warranty, the dealer is required to give the part to you to
maintain the warrany. I am sure they will say it isn't required, but
encouraged......IOW, you can use any part that is an OEM equivalent
(i.e. Purolator, etc).

Except from Act:
While the Magnuson-Moss Act does not require manufacturers to provide
a written warranty, it provides specific rules when one is provided.
Among those provisions, FTC regulations state: "(c) No warrantor of a
consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such
product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any
article or service (other than article or service provided without
charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand,
trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this
subsection may be waived by the Commission if - ((1)the warrantor
satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function
properly only if the article or service so identified is used in
connection with the warranted product, and (2) the Commission finds
that such a waiver is in the public interest." ((42 U.S.C.2302(C))
-
 
My Taurus SHO with high pressure and volume will NEVER get a Fram oil filter
after I saw the cardboard end caps and the lack of anti-drain back
mechanism. I'm not sold on any particular brand, only the specs and quality
of construction.
 
hyundaitech said:
I've heard about some issues with some Fram oil filters starving the engine
for oil. I don't know whether they were defective, the wrong one for the
car, or what the story was, but apparently it's happened enought that
Hyundai has requested notification if these cars come into the dealer with
this issue. This also isn't intended as a slam on Fram oil filters. I
sometimes use them on my car and have never had a problem.

FWIW, it seems that the current consensus on Fram filters is that while
they used to be a good product "way back when...", they're now basically
junk. I won't use them. There are plenty of other filters with solid
reputations available just as easily and at similar prices. For example,
Purolator - or the rebadged house-brand filters they make for companies
like Pep Boys - are well regarded.
 
"Brian Nystrom"
FWIW, it seems that the current consensus on Fram filters is that while
they used to be a good product "way back when...", they're now basically
junk. I won't use them. There are plenty of other filters with solid
reputations available just as easily and at similar prices. For example,
Purolator - or the rebadged house-brand filters they make for companies
like Pep Boys - are well regarded.


Wix are quality filters too. Also sold as NAPA Gold.
 
I'm learning first hand about using "aftermarket" oil filters. My mother
went for her first oil change to a local garage she has used for 20 years.
285 miles later she began to hear a tapping in the engine. Hyundai would
not even look at the vehicle for 2 weeks because of the "aftermarket"
filter and they have voided her warranty (so they think!). They are
claiming that her bearings are severly scorred thus causing the engine to
blow at 3147 miles. They want her to pay $10,000 to replace the engine.
It's been at the dealership for 4 weeks!
 
kjs said:
I'm learning first hand about using "aftermarket" oil filters. My mother
went for her first oil change to a local garage she has used for 20 years.
285 miles later she began to hear a tapping in the engine. Hyundai would
not even look at the vehicle for 2 weeks because of the "aftermarket"
filter and they have voided her warranty (so they think!). They are
claiming that her bearings are severly scorred thus causing the engine to
blow at 3147 miles. They want her to pay $10,000 to replace the engine.
It's been at the dealership for 4 weeks!

What caused the damage? It's possible that it was the filter, if the oil
changer installed the wrong one (that's far more likely than a defective
filter). Perhaps the drain plug wasn't installed properly and it leaked?
Either way, the oil change facility is liable for the damages. If, on
the other hand, it's an unrelated engine problem, Hyundai is bound to
cover it under warranty.

Either way, I'd get the car back before the dealer screws with it, as
you will probably need to get it evaluated by an independent mechanic or
two in case you need to take the oil changer or the Hyundai to court.
 
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