Santa Fe 2004 V6 Valve tap

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hyundaitech said:
It is up to the readers of my posts whether they wish to believe what I
tell them about myself. I do not post here to give insight into my
personal life. I post here to be of assistance to people who find it
useful.
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I don't think so buddy, there are many reasons or should I say
evidences that you're not here for true altruistic reasons.
I know many real-life working techs and they all LOATHE to deal with
shade-tree types. You know damn very well those types, those who come
up with their own diagnosis(parroting whatever people who they think
are credible say on Internet forums)and tell YOU what to do..ha ha..
That's probably the No. 1 reason why we don't see real working techs
post regularly on rec.autos.tech and other auto newsgroups in rec. or
alt. hierarchy. If you ask them to list 10,000 things they'd like to do
in their leisure time after the back-breaking hard day's work, helping
car owners on Usenet wouldn't make the list. and am i gonna believe
you're doing that inbetween repair orders on weekdays at work??????
please...
"hyundaitech", you're not gonna fool me into thinking you come here to
help other people...

There were two real Hyundai techs who I consider came here to really
want to assist Hyundai owners. One posted with real name and the other
was a devout Christian :) They didn't last long...one proof they didn't
come here with a hidden agenda, they just lost interest after a couple
of months...
Now what did they have in common?
They diddn't bother to identify themselves as a Hyundai tech 'cause
they couldn't care less whether other people thought thier opinions
were credible and didn't really give out their diagnosis readily on
scant problem descriptions...stark contrast to your M.O., so obivious
that you're only interested in building up credibility as some kind of
experienced Hyundai tech ...for what purpose?...

Regardless of the motivation, if you are really a 9-year hyundai tech,
you're a fucking joke, buddy...
Move to groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai and read every
post i followed up to your replies in the last 6 months. god I love to
see you squirming to come up with some crummy excuses.

BTW, you haven't replaced a cabin air filter in 1999+ Sonata yet?
 
Considering I'm suffering from this problem (and a marbles-in-the-engine
sound when warmed up) I was hoping this thread might go somewhere.

Now its just another usenet penis war.

Sad.

JS

PS - Hyundaitech, do you happen to work in a town that starts with an N,
third letter is a C, and ends with an S?
 
Is the "marbles in engine" noise constantly present or does it occur only
at certain times, e.g. on acceleration?

Also, what engine do you have in your Santa Fe?
 
hyundaitech said:
Is the "marbles in engine" noise constantly present or does it occur only
at certain times, e.g. on acceleration?
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All times, most noticable at idle - its alarmingly loud. Car otherwise
runs great, decent fuel economy, etc. It 'sounds like' its coming from
the top rear cylinder head,

Noise still exists with the accessory belt removed.
Also, what engine do you have in your Santa Fe?
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2.7/4A/FWD-only.

Hard sound to isolate, sounds like its coming from the rear cylinder
head but that doesn't mean anything...

JS
 
While I'm not necessarily alarmed at the tap on startup, I do find your
description of the noise when warm somewhat disturbing. If you can't
readily identify what type of noise it sounds like (valve tap, etc), then
I'd urge you to take it to be checked.

Although I've not personally experienced this, I've heard reports of small
filters not allowing enough oil to pass. If you think it's worthwhile, you
may wish to change your oil and filter (using a factory filter) and see if
it continues. If you have the factory filter on, then the dealer has
difficulty blaming it on the filter if the noise continues.

I've also seen a couple isolated cases of timing chain wear on the alpha
and beta 4 cylinder dohc engines. Your engine has a similar setup, with a
chain on each head joining the two camshafts. If the chain gets too loose
or worn, it can start slapping the valve cover.

Oh, and I almost forgot. I doubt this is it since it would be on the
front bank, but I've seen a case where the sheet metal shield under the
oil cap has been bent down to where it contacts moving parts on the head.
I surmise this occurs by jamming an oil delivery device into the hole. I
haven't seen this on the 2.7, but I suppose it's possible.
 
Hey all,

Its been about 2 weeks since I started this thread.

Heres an update.
I have mobile 1 oil + the Hyundai filter since the service.

No more tap!
I had the car sit 3-4 days recently, and no Tap!


I doubt the dealer did anything to the car Striker mentioned. You only need
to run it for a few minutes to get the tapping to stop....It was probablly
sitting for a while before they started it.

I have the old filter, and plan to disect it to see if it is a cheap Fram or
lacks the valve.
 
The problem goes away after the engine is running a few minutes.
One or more of the lifters acts as if it is stuck, because there is no
pressure on a cold start.....after sitting for a few days.


Explain the HLA further. Are you saying there is some adjustment for valve
lash?
The dealer said there is no adjustment for the hydralic lifters.......
 
I doubt the dealer did anything to the car Striker mentioned. You only need
to run it for a few minutes to get the tapping to stop....It was probablly
sitting for a while before they started it.





I test drove that Santa Fe for about 1/2 hour and the tapping did not go
away also there was a burning smell coming from under the hood. Coating ?
What I said about the dealer doing something to stop the tap, came from a
salesman. Most likely B.S.


Striker
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