XM-Satellite Is Coming Soon To A High-Priced Luxury Car Not For You

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One thing about Hyundai: They ain't gonna make XM-satellite standard in
the Elantra etal later this year.

Thank goodness, because that would be spoiling the customers, plus the
Delphic Parts Oracle frowns upon non-austerity, plus I'd rather listen
to local radio commercials interrupted by inane chatter and occasional
music, plus why give people the option, plus ...I'm kidding:

HYUNDAI IN LATER 2006 IS REPORTEDLY MAKING XM-SATELLITE COMPONENTS
STANDARD; and I presume one will have to pay that $13 a month
subscription or whatever if one wants his satellite radio components
activated.
 
One thing about Hyundai: They ain't gonna make XM-satellite standard in
the Elantra etal later this year.

Thank goodness, because that would be spoiling the customers, plus the
Delphic Parts Oracle frowns upon non-austerity, plus I'd rather listen
to local radio commercials interrupted by inane chatter and occasional
music, plus why give people the option, plus ...I'm kidding:

HYUNDAI IN LATER 2006 IS REPORTEDLY MAKING XM-SATELLITE COMPONENTS
STANDARD; and I presume one will have to pay that $13 a month
subscription or whatever if one wants his satellite radio components
activated.
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why pay for radio??????????
 
nothermark said:
why pay for radio??????????
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I agree. Personally I'd like to see the concept fall flat on it's face.
If nothing else, it would be nice to see Howard Stern out of a job. ;-)
 
If you ever move to a small town (Think Mid West) where there may only be 2
or 3 radio stations, paying 13 a month seems like a small price. Plus if
you are a trucker that does not want to retune your radio every 2 or so
hours this is a small price.

Am I saying XM or Sirrus(Howard Sterns keeper) is good for everyone? Nope,
I live in Baltimore/DC area and have at least 20 stations to choose from.
But there are plenty who do want it. My Brother in law likes XM, he drives
35 minutes to work each way and he likes the fact that for 35 minutes all he
hears is music. I can't say the same, I drive 60 minutes to work and if I
hear 35 minutes of music I have done well. Traditional radio makes money
from commercials, this means less music more crap. XM is paid for
Mostly(some have commercials) by subscriptions so commercials are not an
issue.

I have had XM, and I did not prefer their formats but that's me. My brother
in law loves it and has yet to use his FM or AM in his car.

To each their own...
 
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I asked this in this froup a while back, and someone said, "How are you
going to get local traffic info and weather without a radio of some
sort?" Now, you don't need pay services for local traffic and weather,
but if you want traffic, weather, and music, it gets more complex. (I
don't care too much about traffic and weather, because here in southern
Michigan 1.5 hours from Detroit, traffic is not a problem, and blizzards
are too wimpy for weather to be very relevant.)
If you ever move to a small town (Think Mid West) where there may only
be 2 or 3 radio stations, paying 13 a month seems like a small price.
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0. 1 reasonable CD-RW drive: $50
1. Spindle of CD-Rs: $18
2. Ripping+encoding music you already have: time
3. Songs from iTunes or whatever: roughly $1/song
4. Songs from your local friendly P2P network: time
5. Burning mix CDs from songs obtained in steps 2-4: time

....so for a minimal investment + time, you don't need monthly
subscription fees in order to listen to nothing but music you like.
Heck, most consumer-level x86s and Macs have CD-RWs now, so the
investment is even more minimal than I outlined above.
My Brother in law likes XM, he drives 35 minutes to work each way and
he likes the fact that for 35 minutes all he hears is music. I can't
say the same, I drive 60 minutes to work and if I hear 35 minutes of
music I have done well.
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The first (and last) time I used my car radio was during the huge
blackout several years ago. CD-Rs, tapes, and iPod + cassette adapter
mean it's all music, all the time in my car.
XM is paid for mostly (some have commercials) by subscriptions so
commercials are not an issue.
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In the early days of cable TV, commercials on cable TV were pretty
infrequent "because subscribers pay fees, we don't need commercials."
Things are different now. Look for more XM stations to add commercials,
as they try to maximize revenue. If one of XM or Sirius goes belly-up,
all stations on the surviving satellite radio provider will have
commercials in a very short time. That's just the way it goes, I think.
 
all I hear is music too.. its called a CD player which all Hyundais come
with and most play MP3's or WMA files. thats about 180 songs per CD.. have
10 CDs in my Santa Fe.. thats approx 1800 songs.. no brainer there. WHO
needs radio..;-)


Pete...
 
Dances With Crows said:
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I'm pretty sure that most of the people on which you've imposed YOUR opinion
of how to post on Usenet did not appreciate it. Looking at your posting
history, you've provided more information on how to post according to your
standards than useful information in your responses. Case in point here. A
buck a tune or around $10-$13 a disk adds up to $13 (the monthly fee) pretty
quickly. Unless of course, they heed your suggestion and pirate the music.
There's good things, not so good things, and bad things about both - Sirius
and XM. The issues are well known. You on the other hand just decided to pop
up out of the woodwork and start issuing posting instructions to a regular
poster in a newsgroup that you haven't contributed to in over a year.

00000000 Some people post top.
00000001 Some people post bottom.
00000010 Some people delete (usually, like this guy does) the older
stuff.
00000011 Some people interleave - sometimes.
00000100 Some people should just be told to 11110000. ; )
 
all I hear is music too.. its called a CD player which all Hyundais come
with and most play MP3's or WMA files. thats about 180 songs per CD.. have
10 CDs in my Santa Fe.. thats approx 1800 songs.. no brainer there. WHO
needs radio..;-)


Pete...
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I guess it comes down to what works for you. Freedom of choice and all
that. My CD collection isn't that large and I really don't like
deciding whether I want to download a particular song. With XM I'm
continually hearing songs I haven't heard in years. I'm prepaid for
next next couple of years, so my daily cost is about 30 cents. Well
worth it for me.

IMHO the XM traffic channel is almost useless. I live near Boston and
it's clear that the traffic reporters don't understand how the
highways they are reporting on are related. Opie & Anthony can be
funny, but their schtick gets old quickly.
 
re: radio & other audio phenomena

Y'all are too young for the Golden age of Radio.

I am now ...uh..can't recall.. uh...61.

A grandpa who had luved late 1940s and 1950s radio programs, which I
can recite commercials and so forth.

And I've been thru the talk, rock, folk-sing, hillbilly, jazz and
classical formats: So, I'm not anti-music, except for rap, which is
.....uh...semi-terrific political doggerel/bad poetry.

I now hardly listen to radio, except NPR sometimes, but when they do
the annoying pledge drives....buh-byuh.

So, we listen-to audio book cassettes and c.d. book cassettes now.

Too dumb to download 'em from internet chiseling/gray area sites, so
just borrow 'em from public libraries.

Mostly detective fiction, Grisham, John Sandford, James Patterson, and
many other who-dunnits.

So, when travelling now, it's no more singing along with 30 year old
Eagles etal albums.

Well, an ole Carly Simon we might listen to.

And to heck with XM & Sirius: They'll please combine 'em if they want
my subscription.

Because I've had it with 8-track, Sony Betamax, and other such
obsoletes.

Sirius and/or XM won't survive: They should please merge, and perhaps
sell Class B stock to their listeners/loyal "owners" if ya get my
self-interest drift.

People will simply not gladly pay that $13 a month--plus for
components, and so we gotta be persuaded that sat radio is
truly/inherently in our self-interests, which it is, including

old radio programs, college stations, CSPAN, NPR, local & network tv
news, Pacifica, comedy, HOWARD's awful shite, etal.

But if ya really like the current local schlocky/garbagey radio, then
save the $13 for gas, cholesterol burgers, house payments, lotto
tickets et cetera.
 
Robert said:
re: radio & other audio phenomena

Y'all are too young for the Golden age of Radio.

I am now ...uh..can't recall.. uh...61.

A grandpa who had luved late 1940s and 1950s radio programs, which I
can recite commercials and so forth.

And I've been thru the talk, rock, folk-sing, hillbilly, jazz and
classical formats: So, I'm not anti-music, except for rap, which is
.....uh...semi-terrific political doggerel/bad poetry.

I now hardly listen to radio, except NPR sometimes, but when they do
the annoying pledge drives....buh-byuh.

So, we listen-to audio book cassettes and c.d. book cassettes now.

Too dumb to download 'em from internet chiseling/gray area sites, so
just borrow 'em from public libraries.

Mostly detective fiction, Grisham, John Sandford, James Patterson, and
many other who-dunnits.

So, when travelling now, it's no more singing along with 30 year old
Eagles etal albums.

Well, an ole Carly Simon we might listen to.

And to heck with XM & Sirius: They'll please combine 'em if they want
my subscription.

Because I've had it with 8-track, Sony Betamax, and other such
obsoletes.

Sirius and/or XM won't survive: They should please merge, and perhaps
sell Class B stock to their listeners/loyal "owners" if ya get my
self-interest drift.

People will simply not gladly pay that $13 a month--plus for
components, and so we gotta be persuaded that sat radio is
truly/inherently in our self-interests, which it is, including

old radio programs, college stations, CSPAN, NPR, local & network tv
news, Pacifica, comedy, HOWARD's awful shite, etal.

But if ya really like the current local schlocky/garbagey radio, then
save the $13 for gas, cholesterol burgers, house payments, lotto
tickets et cetera.
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Amen to your definition of rap. I see the ONLY difference between rap
and crap is the "c".
 
The Dan entity posted thusly:
Amen to your definition of rap. I see the ONLY difference between rap
and crap is the "c".
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I like the music OK, it's just the annoying guys talking over top of
it that ruin it.
 
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