Wow! How about that new Genesis!

[bought2bought]

Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai Genesis! Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the Sonata, but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long way!!!

 

[631grant]

Yea, it's beautiful but you have to ask yourself what are these car companies thinking? Introduce a car with 375 horsepower on premium gas at $3.25 a gallon instead of a smaller diesel powered car that we sane people want? I say 'sane' because there are those of you out there with the 'I can afford it so I'm going to get it' mindset that has the rest of us sane people forced into larger vehicles just because 'we want some protection in case we get hit by one of the behemoths that surround us on the highways'. Legislate and tax the big SUV's off the highways and see how quickly small cars will proliferate. Oh how I hate yuppies!

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

Yea, it's beautiful but you have to ask yourself what are these car

companies thinking? Introduce a car with 375 horsepower on premium gas at $3.25 a gallon instead of a smaller diesel powered car that we sane people want? I say 'sane' because there are those of you out there with the 'I can afford it so I'm going to get it' mindset that has the rest of us sane people forced into larger vehicles just because 'we want some protection in case we get hit by one of the behemoths that surround us on the highways'. Legislate and tax the big SUV's off the highways and see how quickly small cars will proliferate. Oh how I hate yuppies!

People with too much money and no regard for anyone else aren't yuppies, they're called idiots. The problem is the Energy Tax Act of '79 that's your problem, not "yuppies." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Tax_Act

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Mike Marlow]

Yea, it's beautiful but you have to ask yourself what are these car companies thinking? Introduce a car with 375 horsepower on premium gas at $3.25 a gallon instead of a smaller diesel powered car that we sane people want? I say 'sane' because there are those of you out there with the 'I can afford it so I'm going to get it' mindset that has the rest of us sane people forced into larger vehicles just because 'we want some protection in case we get hit by one of the behemoths that surround us on the highways'. Legislate and tax the big SUV's off the highways and see how quickly small cars will proliferate. Oh how I hate yuppies!

Yeah - I hate yuppies too. They whine too much about what everyone else has, that they don't believe those other people should have. Oh by the way - don't blame people with more safe cars for your plight in life. Go ahead and buy that tin can. After all, it does not matter if other cars on the road are big enough to harm you - you already placed yourself in that position with your decision to purchase a cheap piece of junk that something as benign as a tree along side of the road would threaten.

 

[benick]

What an idiot.. I hate "nanny types" who think they know what's best for everyone. I'll spend MY MONEY as I see fit.You want to drive a go-cart so the government should outlaw SUV's and trucks? That's just what we need...More nanny laws to regulate behavior..Was you born stupid or is it something you work on daily.I can just imagin trying to haul all my tools and materials around in a Yugo...You want to drive around with your knees on your chest,fine go for it but leave me the hell alone....I suppose next you will be whining that my house is to big as well and we need laws to regulate square footage per person....Socialist moonbat.....

 

[Mike Marlow]

People with too much money and no regard for anyone else aren't yuppies, they're called idiots. The problem is the Energy Tax Act of '79 that's your problem, not "yuppies."

That's one way to look at the matter. Another is that the real idiots are those who blindly think they can drive around in the lightest, smallest, most vulnerable pieces of junk, with a singular focus on the economics of their vehicle, and then blame others who actually care about other factors (like survivability) for the consequences of their decisions.

Long ago I lived in Okinawa for three years. At the time, a 60's Ford Falcon was a large car, and you'd see something like it from time to time on the roads. Mostly, you saw and you drove things more akin to a motorcycle with a cheap frame and body around it, and mounted on four wheels instead of two. Common engines were indeed a 360cc motorcycle engine. Fuel economy was pretty darned good. Safety wasn't. Those vehicles didn't have to encounter an SUV, or a pickup, or a full frame vehicle to present a real danger to the occupants. Anything more significant than a strong wind presented a significant danger to the occupants. "Real cars" of the time which were a lot lighter and smaller than an Accord is today were a very real threat to these things. The point is that there is a point where this blind pursuit of economy, ignorant of all other factors is as idiotic as anything else. These voices that cry out about how endangered they are by "big behemoths" are nothing short of idiotic.

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

That's one way to look at the matter. Another is that the real idiots are

those who blindly think they can drive around in the lightest, smallest, most vulnerable pieces of junk, with a singular focus on the economics of their vehicle, and then blame others who actually care about other factors (like survivability) for the consequences of their decisions.

Right. That's why old people drive in the biggest boats they can find.
Your point is very dull.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

What an idiot.. I hate "nanny types" who think they know what's best for

everyone. I'll spend MY MONEY as I see fit.You want to drive a go-cart so the government should outlaw SUV's and trucks? That's just what we need...More nanny laws to regulate behavior..Was you born stupid or is it something you work on daily.I can just imagin trying to haul all my tools and materials around in a Yugo...You want to drive around with your knees on your chest,fine go for it but leave me the hell alone....I suppose next you will be whining that my house is to big as well and we need laws to regulate square footage per person....Socialist moonbat.....

Why should the rest of America pay for your overconsumption of gas? So what if you have the money, you anti-americanism stinks.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[St Peters]

Yes, it is cool. But it's not big enough or expensive enough for me. I'm waiting for Hyundai to move into production their concept car, the Hyundai "Tanker". It has tracks instead of tires and sports an optional 50mm cannon. That'll piss off the eco-loony Democrats and also make the Republicans in the SUV's think twice before they tailgate.

Fred

 

[jp103]

Is that a forward, rear or swivel mounted canon? I personally prefer the forward mounted to clear the left-lane laggards! With a good strong rear bumper tailgaters won't bother me.

John

 

[Finn (3)]

What an idiot.. I hate "nanny types" who think they know what's best for everyone. I'll spend MY MONEY as I see fit.You want to drive a go-cart so the government should outlaw SUV's and trucks? That's just what we need...More nanny laws to regulate behavior..Was you born stupid or is it something you work on daily.I can just imagin trying to haul all my tools and materials around in a Yugo...You want to drive around with your knees on your chest,fine go for it but leave me the hell alone....I suppose next you will be whining that my house is to big as well and we need laws to regulate square footage per person....Socialist moonbat.....

I live in canuck-ville where gas cost a lot more and drive a sanata fe, i will not trade it in for a accent to save a few bucks on gas... I would love a diesel Santa fe, but do not think we will see one anytime soon. I see too many compact cars smashed to pieces when they are involved in an accident. I prefer to keep my family safe in a suv.

my 0.02 c
Finn

 

[benick]

Why should the rest of America pay for your overconsumption of gas? So what if you have the money, you anti-americanism stinks.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

I guess you can't read either...I use my truck for WORK...Look it up if you don't know what it means.....By the way ,what do you drive and how big is your house? Public Transportation and Public Housing maybe???? I'll get rid of my truck when Al Gore starts riding a bike and living in a Tee-Pee...LOL

 

[Finn (3)]

I guess you can't read either...I use my truck for WORK...Look it up if you don't know what it means.....By the way ,what do you drive and how big is your house? Public Transportation and Public Housing maybe???? I'll get rid of my truck when Al Gore starts riding a bike and living in a Tee-Pee...LOL

LOL....

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

I guess you can't read either...I use my truck for WORK...Look it up if you

don't know what it means.....By the way ,what do you drive and how big is your house? Public Transportation and Public Housing maybe???? I'll get rid of my truck when Al Gore starts riding a bike and living in a Tee-Pee...LOL

I own my own house and I drive an 02 Sonata.

I understand people who drive trucks for work (i.e., construction, carrying payload, etc.). No one needs a crew-cab V8 with 8ft bed or dualie to get groceries or drive to the office. Same for Hummers, same for Navigators, same for blah blah blah. But, people can do whatever they want with their money. If you can afford it, good for you. Don't screw the rest of the American populous in the interim with you obsession with waste and consumerism. Exxon is happy that you've helped them break a global record for profit on gas this past year. Yay for you. May the Arab Oil Czars put their blessing on you and your family. Allah Ahkbar.

The fact of the matter is, if you took the time to understand that the point of the Energy Tax Act, when created, was to exempt large trucks from having to have the same gas mileage as passenger cars do. Back THEN, people used light trucks for utilitarian purposes. That isn't true today. Car makers use this gaping loophole to make Hummers, Navigators, and other vehicles and call them "trucks" because of their weight or the way the square footage come out. They are as utilitarian as tits on a bull. Nowadays, people don't buy Hummers or Navigators or crew-cab trucks because they use them for "work", they buy them because they can and have all the money in the world to blow on gas or diesel. Gas that their cars consume at twice the rate that my car is legally bound to consume. I'm only saying the playing field should be level because while the loophole exists, the car companies aren't going to stop making vehicles that don't have to adhere to the law because they don't HAVE to. It's unfathomable that Bush even signed the damn legislation to make all fleet vehicles get 35MPG by 2020.

Why should someone's "work" truck consume at twice the rate my car does and not pay any penalty just because of a loophole in a law? Nobody drives Fiats in this country and to say people drive "go-karts" shows us how much of a manly man you are by insulting the group. Let me guess your demographic: Construction / Contractor / Developer? Union & Overpaid but first to complain about market competition from the Chinese (or anyone else who'll do the exact same work for less)? Tell everyone to Buy American but shop at Wal-Mart / Target / "Big Box Inc."? Am I close?

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Matt Whiting]

I own my own house and I drive an 02 Sonata.

I understand people who drive trucks for work (i.e., construction, carrying payload, etc.). No one needs a crew-cab V8 with 8ft bed or dualie to get groceries or drive to the office. Same for Hummers, same for Navigators, same for blah blah blah. But, people can do whatever they want with their money. If you can afford it, good for you. Don't screw the rest of the American populous in the interim with you obsession with waste and consumerism. Exxon is happy that you've helped them break a global record for profit on gas this past year. Yay for you. May the Arab Oil Czars put their blessing on you and your family. Allah Ahkbar.

And nobody needs a Sonata either. What a gas hog when you can ride a bicycle or drive a Prius!

Matt

 

[benick]

I own my own house and I drive an 02 Sonata.

I understand people who drive trucks for work (i.e., construction, carrying payload, etc.). No one needs a crew-cab V8 with 8ft bed or dualie to get groceries or drive to the office. Same for Hummers, same for Navigators, same for blah blah blah. But, people can do whatever they want with their money. If you can afford it, good for you. Don't screw the rest of the American populous in the interim with you obsession with waste and consumerism. Exxon is happy that you've helped them break a global record for profit on gas this past year. Yay for you. May the Arab Oil Czars put their blessing on you and your family. Allah Ahkbar.

The fact of the matter is, if you took the time to understand that the point of the Energy Tax Act, when created, was to exempt large trucks from having to have the same gas mileage as passenger cars do. Back THEN, people used light trucks for utilitarian purposes. That isn't true today. Car makers use this gaping loophole to make Hummers, Navigators, and other vehicles and call them "trucks" because of their weight or the way the square footage come out. They are as utilitarian as tits on a bull. Nowadays, people don't buy Hummers or Navigators or crew-cab trucks because they use them for "work", they buy them because they can and have all the money in the world to blow on gas or diesel. Gas that their cars consume at twice the rate that my car is legally bound to consume. I'm only saying the playing field should be level because while the loophole exists, the car companies aren't going to stop making vehicles that don't have to adhere to the law because they don't HAVE to. It's unfathomable that Bush even signed the damn legislation to make all fleet vehicles get 35MPG by 2020.

Why should someone's "work" truck consume at twice the rate my car does and not pay any penalty just because of a loophole in a law? Nobody drives Fiats in this country and to say people drive "go-karts" shows us how much of a manly man you are by insulting the group. Let me guess your demographic: Construction / Contractor / Developer? Union & Overpaid but first to complain about market competition from the Chinese (or anyone else who'll do the exact same work for less)? Tell everyone to Buy American but shop at Wal-Mart / Target / "Big Box Inc."? Am I close?

- Thee Chicago Wolf

NO... This may sound alien to ya but I work for myself(construction) and have written paychecks to employees...Hell, I not only shop at Walmart , my wife works there. I drive a 95 Silverado for work,wife drives an 06 Elantra.If you could see my size you would understand why I refer to subcompacts as go-carts...LOL... I work DAMN hard to earn my money and will spend it as I see fit.Screw you nanny types and global warming snake oil salesmen........

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

And nobody needs a Sonata either. What a gas hog when you can ride a

bicycle or drive a Prius!

Dude, the 08 4-cyl Sonata gets better gas mileage and has more horsepower than my 02. 09 Sonata is supposed to be even better. I am hoping my 02 lasts until Hyundai comes out with their Hybrids (2011?
2012?).

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

NO... This may sound alien to ya but I work for myself(construction) and

have written paychecks to employees...Hell, I not only shop at Walmart , my wife works there. I drive a 95 Silverado for work,wife drives an 06 Elantra.If you could see my size you would understand why I refer to subcompacts as go-carts...LOL... I work DAMN hard to earn my money and will spend it as I see fit.Screw you nanny types and global warming snake oil salesmen........

You don't even see the irony in it all. I never mentioned global warming. I am talking about rate of consumption. Big difference. Please continue to support the Chinese and Arab economies, they're depending on you.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[benick]

You don't even see the irony in it all. I never mentioned global warming. I am talking about rate of consumption. Big difference. Please continue to support the Chinese and Arab economies, they're depending on you.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

Geesh,ATLEAST use the right countries I'm supporting...Like The United States,(we do still produce our own oil you know)Canada, Venezuela,Russia THEN Saudi Arabia. Don't forget Korea (Elantra)...LOL..MORON...

 

[Mike Marlow]

Right. That's why old people drive in the biggest boats they can find.
Your point is very dull.

Your point never made it through. Try that again?