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Guncho said:
Uhh there's tonnes of evidence actually. The temperature and C02
level spikes, mirror identically the population spike that started
during the baby boom.




There has been no period of warming that was this off the charts.
It's obviously not natural.
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That is only because we only have records for a couple of hundred years.

What about the global cooling warnings of the 70s? What happened to that?

Matt
 
Matt Whiting said:
I always read my owner's manual cover to cover when I get a new car.
However, I also realize that I'm on the fringe in this regard! :-)
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I read mine twice. When I first get the car, but then 30 to 60 days later,
going through it again you seem to spot something of interest that you
either missed the first time or some feature that can be made to work
better.
 
Where's you're evidence that there wasn't any spike before man. The ice age
is prominent proof of a global spike 10,000 years ago, and that was
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Show me some evidence that this is not unnatural.

Chris
 
That is only because we only have records for a couple of hundred years.

What about the global cooling warnings of the 70s? What happened to that?

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Or how bout how once doctor's said it was good to smoke cigarettes?
Puts the whole thing in doubt eh? Guess we should all start smoking.

PS We actually have records going back thousands of years obtained
from ice core samples in the arctic.

Chris
 
Guncho said:
Or how bout how once doctor's said it was good to smoke cigarettes?
Puts the whole thing in doubt eh? Guess we should all start smoking.

PS We actually have records going back thousands of years obtained
from ice core samples in the arctic.

Chris
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Those aren't temperature records. We can only speculate and infer
temperatures from ice core samples.

Matt
 
Guncho said:
Well, you would be wrong.

Chris
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No, and in a few more years the truth will come out and this hoax will
pass as have the previous hoaxes such as global cooling, cold fusion, etc.


Matt
 
Those aren't temperature records. We can only speculate and infer
temperatures from ice core samples.

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So carbon dating is just speculation and inferrence?

Chris
 
No, and in a few more years the truth will come out and this hoax will
pass as have the previous hoaxes such as global cooling, cold fusion, etc.

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Guess we'll find out.

PS Have you done any research on this or is this all just off the top
of your head?

Chris
 
Guess we'll find out.

PS Have you done any research on this or is this all just off the top
of your head?

Chris
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Chris, if you look back at this groups archives a bit, you'll see this
was discussed ad naseum on a few different occasions. At this point in
time, you'll not convince Matt that global warming is real. That won't
happen until his home is beach front property.

Although I agree that global warming is happening faster than ever
before in recorded (or analyzed) history, you have to admit that there
is research that does show this is nothing more than a big blip on the
screen.

Only time will tell for sure...

My big problem with the research showing global warming is that they
mostly blame man as the cause. I don't buy that. I think this is a
normal cycle that has happened before, albeit at a time earlier than we
have the capability of measuring with today's science.

Just yesterday I had a chuckle reading that the EU countries are
considering a ban on the NEW refrigerant R-134a. I think we should just
switch back to Ammonia as the refrigerant of choice.

Eric
 
Guncho said:
So carbon dating is just speculation and inferrence?
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Yes, we have no fool-proof way to know that the decay mechanism is
predictable over thousands of years.

Matt
 
Guncho said:
Guess we'll find out.

PS Have you done any research on this or is this all just off the top
of your head?
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Not a tremendous amount, but I have read articles by the scientists and
climatologists who have been courageous enough to speak out against this
(many of whom are now losing their jobs because they didn't follow the
party line) and their arguments are more compelling to me that the
global warming camp.

Also, just look at the history. I'm old enough to remember the global
cooling and pending "mini ice age" scare of the 70s. Are you?

Matt
 
Eric said:
Chris, if you look back at this groups archives a bit, you'll see this
was discussed ad naseum on a few different occasions. At this point in
time, you'll not convince Matt that global warming is real. That won't
happen until his home is beach front property.
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And I live on a mountain in PA at an elevation of probably 1500' MSL or
more so if I get beachfront property most of you will be in a world of hurt!

Matt
 
Yes, we have no fool-proof way to know that the decay mechanism is
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Okay let me ask you this.

#1 Do you agree that we are pumping tonnes of C02 into the
atmosphere?

#2 Do you agree that 100 years ago humans were not putting this amount
of C02 into the air?

#3 What do you think happens to this C02? Do you think it harmlessly
disapates into the air.

Chris
 
Chris, if you look back at this groups archives a bit, you'll see this
was discussed ad naseum on a few different occasions. At this point in
time, you'll not convince Matt that global warming is real. That won't
happen until his home is beach front property.

Although I agree that global warming is happening faster than ever
before in recorded (or analyzed) history, you have to admit that there
is research that does show this is nothing more than a big blip on the
screen.

Only time will tell for sure...

My big problem with the research showing global warming is that they
mostly blame man as the cause. I don't buy that. I think this is a
normal cycle that has happened before, albeit at a time earlier than we
have the capability of measuring with today's science.

Just yesterday I had a chuckle reading that the EU countries are
considering a ban on the NEW refrigerant R-134a. I think we should just
switch back to Ammonia as the refrigerant of choice.

Eric
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Well we weren't pumping this much C02 into the atmosphere 100 years
ago and I believe that for every action, there is an equal and
opposite reaction.

If you swallow a little bit of poison, you probably won't die. If you
keep swallowing little bits of poison do you think it will never kill
you cause the first bit didn't?

Chris
 
Not a tremendous amount, but I have read articles by the scientists and
climatologists who have been courageous enough to speak out against this
(many of whom are now losing their jobs because they didn't follow the
party line) and their arguments are more compelling to me that the
global warming camp.

Also, just look at the history. I'm old enough to remember the global
cooling and pending "mini ice age" scare of the 70s. Are you?

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Did you know that global warming is capable of causing another mini
ice age in Europe? If the ice in Greenland continues to melt into the
sea it will stop the warm tropical current that keeps Europe at a
reasonable temperature.

Chris
 
Did you know that global warming is capable of causing another mini
ice age in Europe? If the ice in Greenland continues to melt into the
sea it will stop the warm tropical current that keeps Europe at a
reasonable temperature.
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That could be reason enough to ship a boat load of acetylene torches up to
Greenland...
 
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