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Some is absorbed by plants and turned into oxygen. Neither side has really
given a very definite answer on this question.
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Uhh yes they have. It stops the suns rays from leaving the
atmosphere. That's what is causing the warming.

Maybe we need to get rid of
some of the ozone layer to get rid of excess heat?
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Sure and all the lifeforms on the planet with it.

Chris
 
Well we weren't pumping this much C02 into the atmosphere 100 years
ago and I believe that for every action, there is an equal and
opposite reaction.

If you swallow a little bit of poison, you probably won't die. If you
keep swallowing little bits of poison do you think it will never kill
you cause the first bit didn't?

Chris
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Most of the research I have read (I said MOST) indicates that the natural
decay of the rain forests is causing most of the CO2 in the atmosphere
today. Man is just a drop in the proverbial bucket.

Eric
 
Uhh yes they have. It stops the suns rays from leaving the
atmosphere. That's what is causing the warming.
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Yes, CO2 is the cause of the warming. No, it has not been proven that man
is contributing to the problem. You should do a bit more reading before
you close your mind completely.

Eric
 
Most of the research I have read (I said MOST) indicates that the natural
decay of the rain forests is causing most of the CO2 in the atmosphere
today. Man is just a drop in the proverbial bucket.

Eric
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How much research have you read? I'm guessing, not much.

Chris
 
Yes I have and it's pretty obvious what is happening to anyone but the
hardiest of skeptics.

Chris
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The calsh of the bullheads....tonight on alt.autos.hyundai at 7. I
understand that you both think you are right, but most likely the truth is
somewhere in between.

Eric
 
Yes, CO2 is the cause of the warming. No, it has not been proven that man
is contributing to the problem. You should do a bit more reading before
you close your mind completely.

Eric
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Oh yeah it's the natural decay of the rain forest. The billions of
tonnes of CO2 we pump into the atmosphere is food for birds or
something right?

Chris
 
Eric G. said:
The calsh of the bullheads....tonight on alt.autos.hyundai at 7. I
understand that you both think you are right, but most likely the truth is
somewhere in between.

Eric
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Eric, it's a matter of showing hard scientific PROOF. There is none what so
ever that proves that man is causing the supposed global warming.
What some people call proof is nothing more that conjecture based on some
degree of correlation between a set of facts.
Correlation does not prove a dammed thing.
As an example: If the police stop 10 cars for speeding based on a radar
reading and all 10 cars were driven by people with red hair, then one
conclusion drawn from this set of facts would be: all speeders have red
hair.
Just as this example shows that the conclusion is bull crap (sorry I must be
politically correct, the conclusion is erroneous), the conclusions drawn
from the correlations used in the global warming argument have no greater
validity.
 
Guncho said:
Okay let me ask you this.

#1 Do you agree that we are pumping tonnes of C02 into the
atmosphere?
Yes.


#2 Do you agree that 100 years ago humans were not putting this amount
of C02 into the air?
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I don't know. A lot of humans burned a lot of wood, coal and other
things for heat back then in very inefficient devices. I have no idea
of we are creating more now than then, and neither does anyone else. I
don't think we had accurate measurements 100 years ago.

#3 What do you think happens to this C02? Do you think it harmlessly
disapates into the air.
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I think the trees and plants love it!


Matt
 
Edwin said:
Some is absorbed by plants and turned into oxygen. Neither side has really
given a very definite answer on this question. Maybe we need to get rid of
some of the ozone layer to get rid of excess heat?

Or at least close the door at Al's house
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm
http://www.thosebastards.com/archives/2520/
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Yes, I had to love the report on Hypocrite Al and his house that
consumes 10X the electricity of the rest of us. Anyone who thinks he
isn't in this for the money and the free publicity is naive beyond belief.

Matt
 
Guncho said:
Uhh yes they have. It stops the suns rays from leaving the
atmosphere. That's what is causing the warming.
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That is one theory. And a wrong one, but a theory.

You still haven't addressed the global cooling claims of the 1970s.
What makes you so sure that the "scientists" are right this time when
they were wrong then?

Matt
 
How much research have you read? I'm guessing, not much.

Chris
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That's a funny one because I was going to say that about you. Is your last
name Gore by any chance?

Eric
 
Eric said:
Yes, CO2 is the cause of the warming. No, it has not been proven that man
is contributing to the problem. You should do a bit more reading before
you close your mind completely.
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How do you know it is the cause of warming? It might be that we are
receiving more energy from the sun these days.

Matt
 
Guncho said:
Did you know that global warming is capable of causing another mini
ice age in Europe? If the ice in Greenland continues to melt into the
sea it will stop the warm tropical current that keeps Europe at a
reasonable temperature.
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Life is tough all around the world I guess.

Matt
 
Oh yeah it's the natural decay of the rain forest. The billions of
tonnes of CO2 we pump into the atmosphere is food for birds or
something right?

Chris
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The natural decay of the rain forest is at LEAST 50 times the level of CO2
pumped out by humans.

And just out of curiosity, how old are you? From what I have read, the
word tonne hasn't been used since the 50's or so. And you are not using it
right anyway.

Eric
 
Eric, it's a matter of showing hard scientific PROOF. There is none
what so
ever that proves that man is causing the supposed global warming.
What some people call proof is nothing more that conjecture based on
some degree of correlation between a set of facts.
Correlation does not prove a dammed thing.
As an example: If the police stop 10 cars for speeding based on a
radar reading and all 10 cars were driven by people with red hair,
then one conclusion drawn from this set of facts would be: all
speeders have red hair.
Just as this example shows that the conclusion is bull crap (sorry I
must be politically correct, the conclusion is erroneous), the
conclusions drawn from the correlations used in the global warming
argument have no greater validity.
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DT, I am with you on that for the most part, except there also is no
scientific evidence (beyond conjecture) that man ISN'T causing the
global warming either. I personally believe that man is not the cause,
becuase I think the same thing has happened over and over again over the
last billion years or so.

Eric
 
Eric G. wrote:

How do you know it is the cause of warming? It might be that we are
receiving more energy from the sun these days.

Matt
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Well,yes, I agree we are recieving more energy from the sun too, but I
think "we" could handle that more efficently without the CO2 trapping it in
like a blanket.

Eric
 
Eric G. said:
DT, I am with you on that for the most part, except there also is no
scientific evidence (beyond conjecture) that man ISN'T causing the
global warming either. I personally believe that man is not the cause,
becuase I think the same thing has happened over and over again over the
last billion years or so.

Eric
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Eric,
Any time one posits a theory it up to them to prove the theory.
It is not obligatory upon those who do not believe man is the cause to prove
that man is not the cause. Those that say man is the cause have the burden
of proof.
It is as if one who does not believe in God has to prove the non existence
of God.
It is up to those who believe in God to prove God exists.
One can believe what ever one chooses to believe, however believing without
proof is called faith.
Double Tap
 
Matt Whiting said:
I don't know. A lot of humans burned a lot of wood, coal and other things
for heat back then in very inefficient devices. I have no idea of we are
creating more now than then, and neither does anyone else. I don't think
we had accurate measurements 100 years ago.
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I don't know if CO2 was even measured back then, but air pollution was
certainly far worse than today. Not to mention the horse crap in the
streets.
 
Guncho said:
If you swallow a little bit of poison, you probably won't die. If you
keep swallowing little bits of poison do you think it will never kill
you cause the first bit didn't?

Chris
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YES. My wife takes a little poison every day. Honest, it keeps her blood
thin and she will be taking it the rest of her life. It can be bought as a
medication, it can be bought as a rodent poison. It just comes down to
quantity.
 
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