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Oh yeah it's the natural decay of the rain forest. The billions of
tonnes of CO2 we pump into the atmosphere is food for birds or
something right?
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Wow - I always thought that, but wasn't sure it was true. Now I know it is.
After all, I read it right here on the internet.
 
I don't know. A lot of humans burned a lot of wood, coal and other
things for heat back then in very inefficient devices. I have no idea
of we are creating more now than then, and neither does anyone else. I
don't think we had accurate measurements 100 years ago.
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YOu can't be serious??!?! You're comparing people burning some wood
or coal for heat with millions of cars on the road and huge factories
pumping out C02?
I think the trees and plants love it!
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I think there's a lot more C02 than they need.

Chris
 
That is one theory. And a wrong one, but a theory.

You still haven't addressed the global cooling claims of the 1970s.
What makes you so sure that the "scientists" are right this time when
they were wrong then?

Matt
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You know what man? Believe what you want. I really don't care.

Chris
 
Guncho said:
You know what man? Believe what you want. I really don't care.
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But, he raised a valid point Chris. It's about the data, the interpretation
of the data, the validity of the data. Some of us have been around long
enough to have heard the same arguments, the same "use" of data, the same
alarms, just related to issues that are the complete opposite of today's pet
issues. I don't know if you've been around long enough to remember the
stuff Matt's talking about, but I am. His point is one you need to address
if you really want to be held as credible in your position.
 
Mike said:
But, he raised a valid point Chris. It's about the data, the interpretation
of the data, the validity of the data. Some of us have been around long
enough to have heard the same arguments, the same "use" of data, the same
alarms, just related to issues that are the complete opposite of today's pet
issues. I don't know if you've been around long enough to remember the
stuff Matt's talking about, but I am. His point is one you need to address
if you really want to be held as credible in your position.
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Why don't you guys just go to one of the environment newsgroups and
carry on this discussion. It has devolved to totally off-topic. Where
is the Hyundai connection?
 
Why don't you guys just go to one of the environment newsgroups and
carry on this discussion. It has devolved to totally off-topic.
Where is the Hyundai connection?
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It's right under your delete button.
 
But, he raised a valid point Chris. It's about the data, the interpretation
of the data, the validity of the data. Some of us have been around long
enough to have heard the same arguments, the same "use" of data, the same
alarms, just related to issues that are the complete opposite of today's pet
issues. I don't know if you've been around long enough to remember the
stuff Matt's talking about, but I am. His point is one you need to address
if you really want to be held as credible in your position.
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Well, I understand that you don't believe it's a wolf as someone has
called that before and it didn't occur but one time, it just might be
real.

Chris
 
Why don't you guys just go to one of the environment newsgroups and
carry on this discussion. It has devolved to totally off-topic. Where
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Yeah I'm done here. I don't care what anyone believes.

Chris
 
The below was taken from the monthly summary from the National Weather
Service for the area covered by the Mt. Holly, NJ, office for the month
of February, 2007. Man, it sure didn't FEEL like global warming :-)




**** Public Information Statement


500 PM EST Thu Mar 1 2007

....Sixth coldest February on record at Allentown...
....Tenth coldest February on record at reading...
....Tenth coldest February on record at Trenton...
....Tenth coldest February on record at Atlantic City...

The following are the average monthly temperatures for February (for
the above mentioned cities) and where they ranked.


...Allentown...

February, 2007 was the sixth coldest February on record with an
average temperature of 23.9 degrees. The coldest February on record
occurred in 1934, when the average temperature was 16.4 degrees.

Records date back to 1923.

Rank temperature* year
---- ----------- ----
1 16.4 1934
2 20.5 1979
3 21.6 1936
4 22.0 1963
5 22.3 1978
6 23.9 2007
7 24.3 1967
8 24.4 1923
9 24.6 1958
10 24.8 1947


...reading...

February, 2007 was the tenth coldest February on record with an
average temperature of 25.0 degrees. The coldest February on record
occurred in 1979, when the average temperature was 20.5 degrees.

Records date back to 1898.

Rank temperature* year
---- ----------- ----
1 20.5 1979
2 21.1 1978
3 21.2 1934
4 22.3 1905
5 22.6 1907
6 23.4 1904
7 24.3 1994
8 24.8 1899
8 24.8 1914
10 25.0 2007


...Trenton...

February, 2007 was the tenth coldest February on record with an
average temperature of 27.1 degrees. The coldest February on record
occurred in 1934, when the average temperature was 18.5 degrees.

Records date back to 1893.

Rank temperature* year
---- ----------- ----
1 18.5 1934
2 23.6 1979
3 24.9 1936
4 25.4 1895
5 25.6 1914
6 26.2 1978
7 26.3 1899
8 26.5 1923
9 26.7 1907
10 27.1 2007


...Atlantic City...

February, 2007 was the tenth coldest February on record with an
average temperature of 29.3 degrees. The coldest February on record
occurred in 1979, when the average temperature was 21.7 degrees.

Records date back to 1902.

Rank temperature* year
---- ----------- ----
1 21.7 1979
2 23.6 1934
3 23.8 1978
4 27.1 1968
5 27.4 1907
6 28.6 1980
7 28.8 1936
8 29.0 1902
9 29.2 1967
10 29.3 2007

* = temperatures in degrees fahrenheit.
 
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